Need Photoshop Help

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Here's the original picture (taken with the mighty Nikon Coolpix S1), obviously not ideal:
DSCN2446.jpg

And here's the best I've been able to do with it so far with Photoshop 6, Microsoft Photo Editor, and PhotoImpression 6:
DSCN24461111111.jpg

Can anyone show me how to do better?
 
I'm not being mean......but the original picture is poor quality. Your options are going to be limited on what you can accomplish with this. I use Adobe Lightroom to fix up poor quality photos and I'm sure I can get this presentable.

What exactly would you like the end result to be.
 
Yeah, some criteria would make the difference. Here's a chop...

orig.jpg


(Second edit.) Just a little more clear. I dunno what you want.

Coop
 
Thank you for the edits. What I'm trying to do is make the figure clear (i.e., not silhouette) and the graffiti legible.

By cutting the picture into 3 parts, separating the knife rusting water, the knife dulling rock, and the knife wielding psycho, and editing them each separately, I was able to do these, but the edges still need some work:

DSCN2446111111111copy1.jpg


DSCN2446111111111copy.jpg
 
I just made a couple layers and used gradients and blending modes to add blue to the sky/water



medusaoblongata2.jpg


I use layer masks to separate the top, middle, and bottom elements.
 
Nice photoshopping Rat...

When I need to do PS work, I either call upon a friend - a graphic artist who has done work for Disney, Marvel Comics, Bellsouth, etc. - or (as in the case of not being able to get in touch with said friend) start googling for an answer!

Photoshop911.com has some good tips, but I think I've had better results when I've tested multiple solutions - finding the one that works for me...
 
Rat's my Photoshop hero. Nice. :thumbup:

Coop
 
Rat did well. Adding the color is a good idea.

But, the man looks just a bit over-enhanced in his, almost as if he's been photoshopped into the scene. That's a risk any time you separate the elements of a picture and manipulate them separately. They end up looking different.

Thus far, I like Coop's best. But, I think he should lighten the pier just a bit as Rat did.

Adding the color is unclear to me. In some respects, I think I like the stark, almost black-and-white look/mood of the original. I like the look of the rugged-looking man with his jacket and boots and big sun glasses standing on the rugged, rocky pier with the white sky in the back giving a stark contrast. And then, the only bit of really bright color is the blue grafiti; the fact that you can't quite make out what it says is perfect.

Basically, I think that if you try to hard to get detail into this picture, which it has not, then you ruin it nature. If the camera gives you this sort of unclear, moody, constrasty picture, then that's what the result is gonna have to be.

I think if Coop can get a bit of fill flash onto that pier, then he's got it.

Oh, and that's exactly what the photographer should have done in the original picture: use a bit of flash. I know that we often think that flash is only for inside. But, it works great outside sometimes too. And with a digital, you can take one with flash and one without and just delete the one you don't like.
 
Thanks, Coop!

Gollnick-
I agree with what you are saying about changing the feel of the pic. I lightened the blue a little in the second version, but it still changes the mood somewhat. :thumbup:

If we had a larger file to work with, it would be much easier.

medusaoblongata3.jpg


Used too much blur on the legs, but it looks less pasted in now.
 
Mr. Rat, I salute you! You have done it! That is it. That's perfect!

I think that's excellent and probably the best that can be made out of that picture.
 
I'm nowhere near a professional photographer, I just like playing with the pictures I take, especially when they don't come out perfect, which is fairly often, though I'm improving. For the most part I'm not too bad at making pictures look better, though nowhere close to a lot of guys, this one was just giving me trouble.

Yes, it looks like a flash would have helped, but the camera was too far away for the flash to have helped, and the water made it impossible to get any closer. Sometimes I'll use a bright flashlight to get better lighting, though people hate having it shined in their eyes.

I have googled and lurked many forums for answers, and learned a lot by doing so. In this case, I didn't know exactly what my question was, making it harder to search for.

I know my versions look a little bit overenhanced, and it's hard to fix that once it's done.

I have the original file and it's bigger than what's posted (264K) , but PhotoBucket automatically resizes photos so I don't know where to post/host the full size photo.

Rat - great work!

Gollnick - You're right about the feel of the pic being different with different effects. That's one of the things I like about digital photography - that there are so many different possibilities for any pic. One of the things I've done is create multiple versions of a pic, to experiment with the different looks and feels it can have.

Thank you all again for your edits and comments.
I love this place.
 
I had that problem for a while, but I discovered you can change your options in Photobucket to take files up to 1 MB.
 
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