Need source for small packable vials

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oldsalt

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I am building a K9FAK - Doggin first aid kit - and am needing to carry several liquids such as Hydrogen Peroxide (requires a dark container), Novicane solution, alcohol, etc. I am searching for a source for small dark and/or clear leakproof!!!! containers in 1 oz, 5 oz up to 10 or 12 oz. Any suggestions?
oldsalt.
 
How about 35mm film canisters? They're generally leak-proof, but nothing that a rim of waterproof tape can't ensure. Also dark.

The hard part is finding any these days, in the digital age.
 
Betadine iodine and peroxide (for chucking) and saline are the only fluids I have ever needed in the field.

I have 1.5 kits for the boys in the field. I have my people field kit with some augmented dog stuff in it. Then I have the small portable kit for the boys.

It has:

Betadine 1 ounce
3 zip lock bags
1 pair of hemostats
10cc syringe
Uncle bills tweezers
1 role of vet wrap
1 role of kerlex
1 tube EMT gel
small bottle of peroxide
small container of bag balm
4 non stick telfa pads 4X4
small role of duct tape
1 triangular bandage
3 ounces of saline
Mixed meds: Benedryl
Buffered aspirin
Keflex


What do you carry?

Skam
 
Nalgene makes vials in sizes from 1/2 oz (maybe even 1/4 or 1/8 oz) on up , in opaque & amber HDPE.

A lab supply house should have them. Usually no too expensive & last a long time,also more secure than film cans.

Sam
 
oldsalt said:
I am building a K9FAK - Doggin first aid kit - and am needing to carry several liquids such as Hydrogen Peroxide (requires a dark container), Novicane solution, alcohol, etc. I am searching for a source for small dark and/or clear leakproof!!!! containers in 1 oz, 5 oz up to 10 or 12 oz. Any suggestions?
oldsalt.
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Any city streetcorner?

Seriously, what about child proof medicine bottles with some kind of plastic around the rim?
 
Thanks for the input everyone. I'll check around for some medical supply stores. Not sure if the smaller bottles at Campmor will work. None seem to me dark, though I guess I could ducktape them.
Skammer,
I use a modular system of FAKs. I have a small one that I keep with my PSK. When or if I need to upgrade to my truck survival equipment I have a more complete kit that the PSK kit gets added into. The small kit contains some things not in the larger kit and the larger kit contains greater quantities of some of the things in the small kit. The truck kit also contains items directed toward aiding my dogs and serves as a more complete K9FAK as will as Human kit.
I keep a separate kit for my dogs contained in an old mountain smith lumbar pack that I take when I walk them to the neighbor hood park. My BC competes in Frizbee, so besides the minimum K9FAK I carry 3 frizbees, water, training treats, shepherd whistle, 6' and 25' lead, bandana, hand towel and clicker and grooming comb to remove burs. My minimum K9 kit has the following.
1-roll vet tape
3-steril 2x2 gauze
2-steril 4x4 gauze
10' of duct tape
5-alcohol swabs
3-neosporin individual packs
3-medium safety pins
tweezers
exam gloves
container of Hydrogen Peroxid (enough to cause regurgitation)
3- Bendryl 25mg tabs
4-Asprin
1-small tube superglue (emergency pad/wound repair)
1-ice bag (emergency cool down, ice muscle/joint injury)

Note: The bandana, besides being worn in competion can be wet down to cool dog, used as emergency muzzle or to bind wound or splint. The hand towle, besides drying/cleaning frizbees can also be wet and used to cool dog.I also carry a multitool whose pliers I have used to remove porcupine quills and thorns. The 25' tubular webbing lead can be combined with the towel to make an emergency extraction / carry harness. Since these items have primary uses other than FA I don't really count them as part of the FAK.

My truck K9FAK contains (in addition to more of what is listed above)
1 lg bottle saline solution-eye wash.
emergency blanket
Wool blanket
medical tape
large oral syringe - oral medications
Safety razor - shave fur around wound
EMT sissors
Baking soda
Lg Hydrogen peroxide
bottle of vinigar
bottle of rubbing alcohol
forceps
baby wipes
exam gloves
elmer glue (spread on area of micro thorns/needles, wrap with gauze and let
dry. Then pull off to get needles out)
anti bacterial soap
Bottle of Nolvasan
Bedadine solution
Pepto bismal tabs and liquid
cotton swabs
Rolls of gauze bandage
Sharpie marker
Insect repellant - "Skin so soft"
New Skin bandage spray
pad wax
K9 rectal thermometer
Jar Vasaline
Stethescope
scapel blades
Hot spot remedy
Immodium
mineral oil
natural fungal treatment - Tin tree oil.

I will probably be upgrading the kit soon as I am taking a K9 emergency aid course soon.

Old Salt.
 
Salt,

I love your kits. Nice and complete. I carry much the same in the large human kit etc.....

The most used items I use in my K9 Kit is the Aspirin, benedryl, bag balm, vet wrap, EMT gel.

Bag Balm: Is a lanolin based antiseptic paste used on cows teets after milking to sooth them. It has been used on humans and pets for over a hundred yrs as a wound and heal all ointment for cuts scrapes, skin issues etc..... Is great to soften and toughen their pads.

http://www.bagbalm.com/index.html?http://www.bagbalm.com/pets.html

http://www.epinions.com/beat-Makeup-Lips-Bag_Balm_Ointment/display_~reviews

Keflex is the generic name for Cephelexin a broad spectrum antibiotic good for most infections internal and external.

EMT Gel is similar in use to your crazy glue in that it seals wounds but also helps heal lacerations by drying to a flexible waterproof barrier. Designed for pets but works on people too.

http://www.emtgel.com/faq.htm

Zip lock bags are used to put samples of excreta form both ends as Vets want to test it sometimes. Also used to dilute iodine and oking a hole in it to squirt in large wounds that need dirt flushed out of them.

Vet wrap however is the BOMB. If you haven't got any go get some its uses are endless. I have roles of the stuff in all my kits human and pet.

Sound like you got everything covered anyway. Does your trunk and back seats look like mine? Covered in dog blankets, towels and toys and frisbees and water containers and tennis balls etc...........

HOund
 
OldSalt, the "novacaine solution" would have to be by prescription as it is a controlled item.

If you were to get a script for a local anaesthetic, I would recommend Lidocaine. Far less chance of a potentially fatal allergic reaction. Novacaine is ester-based, which historically have a higher incidence of reaction. I know this because I have lived with this allergy for most of my adult life (since high school).
 
Thanks everyone for the links and replies. I found a couple of bottles at REI today and may order some more online.
Skammer, thanks for the input. Great idea using the ziplocks to flush wound. I will be getting some bag balm, Keflex and EMT gel soon. None of them require perscription do they? I have plenty of Vet wrap. I have been buying a pack each month when I buy dog food for a while, building a supply. Yes, my truck is jam packed with dog/survival stuff. Its easy to recognize in the work parking lot as the one that has the xtra large dog crate tied down in back. And yes my cab is cluttered with a couple of dog blankets, several old towels, usually about 5 to 10 frizbees in various states of being chewed up, a couple of kongs and usually a fair amount of old stale dog treats littering the floor. :)
About once every couple of weeks I spend an hour or too organizing and cleaning so my wife can use it.
Thatmguy,
Your right, what i have is Lidocaine. I got it from my vet a while a go and will have to see if she will give me another perscription for it as this is getting close to being out of date. The reason I got it is no longer a problem, so may not be able to get more.
I went to a K9FA course today. 4 hour course including CPR for animals (dogs and cat anyway). Learned a few things so I guess it was worth the money. The instructor could not answer some questions though so it was a little disappointing there. They had never even heard of using a bandana for an emergency muzzle and thought it was an inovative idea. Well get some knowledge, give some knowledge - fair exchange.
Any dog owners out there ever hear of "Rescue Remedy"? Supposed to be a "Box flower remedy" used for depression or shock in dogs? Something that was brought out in the course.
Well right now my Dutch Shepherd, who got snipped today is looking at me with a mournfull expression from his crate so I better go and console him some. Thanks again for the input everyone.
Old Salt
 
Salt,

None of it is perscription.

However the antibiotic keflex/cephalexin can be. If you buy the fish labeled drug from a pet supplier on line it is cheap and legal and the same drug as humans use. I have used it on myself and the dogs for years.

I have had good results with:

http://lambriarvet.com/Antibiotics.php

FYI on cephalexin:

http://www.terrierman.com/antibiotics.htm


I consult the Vet Merck manual for doseages and diagnosis etc.....

http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp

http://www.marvistavet.com/html/the_pet_web_library.html

http://consumer.vetmedcenter.com/consumer/vm_cs_welcome.asp?Page_Type=853

I am a pretty smart guy and can read :rolleyes: so I refuse to take the dog to the vet for every little thing. I save huge $ on vet bills self treating. The best book on dog health I have ever read is: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0876052014/103-1260904-6995050?v=glance

It is worth every penny to purchase and saves you money.

I will be geting the Merck manual for animals soon as well.
I have medical manuals for myself so why not the dogs. Its got to be a survival thing haha.

Skam
 
I have used the Merck Vet Manual for well over 25 years -- it is the bible as far as I am concerned.
 
It is the bible but assumes a fair bit of medical background.

The other book bridges that gap nicely and with pictures etc....

Skam
 
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