Need Temperance 2 advice from users

LostViking

LostViking

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Hello Spyderco folks,

Seeking some advice from actual T2 users and owners.

I have had my Temperance 2 for a few years now. It is still brand new. For whatever reason, it just never gets into the rotation.

I took it out yesterday and was ready to put it on the For Sale Forum. But as I play with it, I still see some potential. I got side tracked yesterday, so it didin't get listed.

So today, I figured, what the heck. I'll just go ahead and use it. Nothing fancy. Just made breakfast for dinner. Home made Corned Beef Hash and Eggs.

Sliced up some taters, peppers, and onions. And of course some corned beef. it did an acceptable job. I stropped it some when I was done. It is even sharper now. The double distal taper with accompanying flat grind makes good sense.

I really want to like this knife. I like the VG-10. I actually have an A-1 Fallky in the same steel and it is a favorite.

I never really warmed to the boltron sheath. But I see now there is a nice looking reasonably priced, leather option for sale seperately. But I see no reason to dump more money into anoyher sheath to sit in the draw.

So, I guess what I am really asking is. If I put my T2 to work in the outdoors, will I ever come to love it?
Does it do enough stuff really well to build that relationship?

I realize this is like asking what color blue is the sky over your house compared to mine. I see a lot of T2 pictures on the web. But very few of the knife actually being used. I have managed to amass a collection of five Spydercos. A drop in the ocean for some of you guys. I like them in the hand, but they just never see much use.

I let my G-10 Bushcrafter go. That was probably a bonehead move. I liked and used that one a lot. The other three are folders. A Tuff, a Manix 2, and one with Uncle Ernie's wave on it whos name escapes me.

Man, I want to love these things. I just don't seem to be much of a folder guy. I know that flies in the face of the majority here. So my apologies for that.

And man, I love the looks of the Spydies. I think the Ribicon and Vallotton are great looking too. And who doesn't want a PM2? Just not sure they wouldn't sit in the draw next to the rest.

Again, this is just one of those internal battles that might make more sense to me once I see it in writing. I truly want to love this knife.

I would say most use would be bushcrafty type stuff. Fires, feather sticks, cutting up steaks cooked in the coals. All manner of outdoor camp type stuff. I build tripods, furniture, tongs and other crafty items. Maybe some light batoning. But I have a nice selection of axes and hatchets for that purpose.

Help!
 
Lost Viking! Fear not! I'm headed to bed right now but as soon as I'm procrastinating at work tomorrow I'm going to write you a response about loving my Temp 2! Stay tuned! [emoji1417]
 
Man!! I really have no clue why you don't pick up any one of those amazing knives and carry and use the heck out of them??!? :confused:
I guess only you can answer that.
Gotta carry them and use them to really know, and lucky for you, you already have them at your disposal unlike many people online shopping for a model they've never felt.

So, gotta ask; what other tools do you have that might do your jobs or tasks better? I guess that is the real question.


I personally don't have a T2 yet, but am in the market for one and have started a similar thread to this back around the holidays... but I've never held one yet.
 
VermontEdge said:
Lost Viking! Fear not! I'm headed to bed right now but as soon as I'm procrastinating at work tomorrow I'm going to write you a response about loving my Temp 2! Stay tuned! [emoji1417]
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Vermont Edge,

Thanks,

I will anxiously await your response.
 
SpeedHoles said:
Man!! I really have no clue why you don't pick up any one of those amazing knives and carry and use the heck out of them??!? :confused:
I guess only you can answer that.
Gotta carry them and use them to really know, and lucky for you, you already have them at your disposal unlike many people online shopping for a model they've never felt.



So, gotta ask; what other tools do you have that might do your jobs or tasks better? I guess that is the real question.


I personally don't have a T2 yet, but am in the market for one and have started a similar thread to this back around the holidays... but I've never held one yet.
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It isn't necessarily if they will do it better. It is how they fit and feel. I chose to show you my Nessmuk. Because if you overlay the Nessie over the T2 the blade is almost identical in length, very colse in shape and yet they couldn't feel more different.




I guess it all hinges on what you get comfortable with, and what you need to accomplish.
 
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Alright!

Firstly, I'll let you know that I have some attachment to my Temp 2. I had wanted one literally for years, and then I won a teaching award 2-3 years ago and bought one with the money. So, being that I have that attachment, I may be a bit biased.

Also, this is kind of a weird post for me as you already own the knife, so I guess all I can do is talk about why I like it and use it.

I think the temp 2 is a terrific knife and it's one that has stayed in my collection while a lot of others have been sold off. For me, the ergos are terrific for both a bushcraft, woods knife as well as something that can readily be used for food. Not all knives toe this line as well. I also have a BHK Lumberjack AT, my other most used fixed blade, but the stock is pretty chunky so it doesn't see much use for food prep. I've sliced tomatoes and batoned with my Temperance 2, and it handled both with grace. It took me a while to be willing to use it for harder tasks but, as long as you're careful with the tip, I haven't had any problems.

Some people criticize VG-10. I don't really think it's "in fashion", if you will, but I've always found it to be a great steel.

I also really like the sheath. Mine has no rattle and is nice and tight, and I love the versatility of the g-clip. Sometimes I attach it at an angle so it can just be clipped to my front pocket, and sometimes I wear it "scout style", horizontal on my lower back.

I honeymooned camping for two weeks on a small island off the coast of Puerto Rico, and this knife served me well on that trip. It opened coconuts, prepped food and did any other camp duties around the site that I needed.

I love the handle, I love the blade shape, and I love the blade length. I dunno. I guess I just feel good picking it up and using it.

That's just me, though. I try not to have things in my collection that can do the same things the same way, if that makes sense. I have 2 other fixed blades, but they fill different slots in my collection.

It can be hard to let a knife go, and it's hard for me to hit that point of saying "alright, this isn't for me". However, once I hit that point I always find it kind of freeing, and it's nice to see the money from one knife turn into another knife that's a better fit. If you have other knives that your hand is drawn to more and that do the same things just as well or better, maybe it's time to let go. Everyone has a different experience picking up a knife so, of course, YMMV. This is all just my 2 cents, of course, as all I can do is offer my opinion.

I'll also throw some pictures up in a few minutes just for good measure.

Anyway Viking, those are my thoughts after owning one for a few years. As someone else mentioned, I most love my spydercos when they're being carried and used. I also happen to think they're gorgeous, but I do think that they really shine in use.

Also, what kind of Nessie is that? is that a Bark River?

Let us know what you decide to do!
 
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Vermont Edge,

Thanks for taking the time to offer up some advice, and some photos.

You are correct about the sheath. I have had it in the Scout setup. I just moved it to cross-draw.



And yes, it is a Barkie.
 
Alright Vermont Edge,

You present a convincing argument. You have bought my Temperance 2 a little more time. I took it up the hill to camp this afternoon.

And played around in the wood pile a bit,



I have to admit it does a respectable job on the feathersticks,



And it looks good doing it,



I felt for a first attempt these were acceptable,



I will continue to play with it a little more,



It is kind of a pretty thing,



Thanks again for your efforts on my behalf,

LV,
 
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Hunter,
I was going to tell you there is ine on the Fixed For Sale Forum, but it is already gone.


Well Vermont,
It looks like you might be the only guy who uses his Temperance 2!

Anybody else?
 
Well this is a subject concerning one of Spyderco's better "IN HOUSE" designs. I'm speaking of the TEMP 2 which was started actually from one of my very favorite Spyderco knives ever and I'm speaking of it's predecessor the "TEMPERANCE 1" model. OK I'm aware of the fact that this thread is specifically about the TEMP 2 model but let's not lose sight of where the concept of the TEMP 2 came from. The TEMP 2 is a highly refined and re-designed version of the TEMP 1.

For many years my two TEMPERANCE 1 models ( PE & SE) have served me extremely well. I haven't gotten a TEMP 2 yet but I do at some point plan on getting one. I'm sort of disappointed that they never offered the TEMP 2 in Spyderedge like they did with the original TEMPERANCE 1 model. That is one of the main aspects that won't let me quit using my two TEMP 1 models because I find both edge types quite useful. To me the TEMP 1 is one of Spyderco's greatest "IN HOUSE" designs. Without the TEMPERANCE 1 there wouldn't be a TEMP 2>> because the concept of the TEMP 1 has given us many great Spyderco models.

The folder which is an off-shoot and that being the leaf blade Lil TEMPERANCE model. Ever since I got my first two TEMP 1 models back in 2004/05 I have used them profusely and there hasn't been a week go by where I haven't used both of them. I have lobbied my heart out for Spyderco to do a Sprint Run of the TEMP 1 models ( PE & SE) in either H-1 or LC200N. Or they could do the TEMP 1 Sprint models in one of the new steels.

I don't mean to derail the subject but believe me the TEMP 2 is truly an awesome design because once you use it you will find out what an extremely functional design it is. If I had an odometer on my TEMP 1 blades the PE would have about 700,000 miles and the SE would have about 225,000 miles :D I hope the TEMPERANCE designs never die because again it's truly one of Spyderco's greatest "IN HOUSE" designs :cool:
 
Maybe they should have called the T2, Son of Temperance.

Nice to hear some more love for the Temperance line.

This may sound funny coming from knife guy, and directed towards other knife guys. But I find there is a bit of a learning curve with the T2. Nothing drastic mind you. But a slight rethinking of how you use it. Not unlike my Nessmuk hatchet.

The double distal taper, and broad leaf design offers up a lot of different cutting areas and surfaces to the user. Up front there is a sharp fine point. Further back there is a lot more material for tougher jobs.

The handle makes it easy to know the orientation of the knife, with out needing visual confirmation.
 
Hi Viking,

It's my "go to" fixed blade when I'm in the forest about my house. Of course I'm biased, and I designed the knife for me, but I do own quite a few fixed blades.

sal
 
Sal,

Thanks for the comment.

I would expect you would be biased. But that doesn't discount your credibility any in my book.
I am sure you have an arsenal of fixies to pick from.

As I continue to explore the Temperance 2, I find it does many things well.
 
LostViking said:
Maybe they should have called the T2, Son of Temperance.

Nice to hear some more love for the Temperance line.

This may sound funny coming from knife guy, and directed towards other knife guys. But I find there is a bit of a learning curve with the T2. Nothing drastic mind you. But a slight rethinking of how you use it. Not unlike my Nessmuk hatchet.

The double distal taper, and broad leaf design offers up a lot of different cutting areas and surfaces to the user. Up front there is a sharp fine point. Further back there is a lot more material for tougher jobs.

The handle makes it easy to know the orientation of the knife, with out needing visual confirmation.
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This is a really great point :thumbup:
 
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