Need to Weaken a Detent

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I got a Kizer Vanguard Gemini, and the detent was really weak to the point that it would not reliably open all the way. At first, I cautiously bent the lockbar, but this had no effect. Losing patience, I next bent it way too much, so now I can't even reassemble the knife, let alone get it to deploy; I have the strongest detent known to man at the moment.

Tried heating up the lockbar with a lighter and putting it in a vise but that didn't work. turns out it's a lot easier to make the detent stronger than to make it weaker. :-) Is the knife gone, or can I fix it? And if I can fix it, how?
 
If all else fails stop! Don’t make it worse, send it to josh at rek he can put in a larger detent ball or just adjust it for you. Larger ball don’t sink n as far! Just did a xm18 for me and it’s awesome
 
If all else fails stop! Don’t make it worse, send it to josh at rek he can put in a larger detent ball or just adjust it for you. Larger ball don’t sink n as far! Just did a xm18 for me and it’s awesome

Hello Dallas T,

Could you give more details about who Josh is at rek? How can I find him? I too have an XM-18 that has the mother of all detents which makes it very difficult to flip.

Thanks
 
Hello Dallas T,

Could you give more details about who Josh is at rek? How can I find him? I too have an XM-18 that has the mother of all detents which makes it very difficult to flip.

Thanks
Sure it’s josh from razor edge knives. Hes on the service provider forum.
 
I managed to fix it. Being a relative newbie to knives, I'm still learning and making all kinds of amateur mistakes. I had partially disassembled the knife, so the pivot was out, and all but one of the screws in the scales were taken out. That last screw (which i left in the scales) allowed the front and back scale to stay together so I wouldn't have to line them up; instead, I backed out the screw so the scales could swing relative to one another, exposing the blade and the lockbar and everything else.

I thought the lockbar/liner was glued to the G10, since the top of the liner, which was not screwed in, adhered to the G10, so I thought it was impossible to really bend the lockbar back. After wrestling with everything, I finally realized it wasn't glued, and that the only reason it was stuck was that last screw at the bottom that was holding the whole knife together! Once I unscrewed that, the liner came free, and I was able to bend it back.

Now the detent is stronger but manageable, the knife fires reliably, and it's fixed. (I put some Daiwa oil on the bearings.) The one complaint I now have is that the liner lock could have used some chamfering. Now that the detent is substantially stronger, I have to jam my thumb into the relatively sharp liner to push it closed, which is unpleasant. Other than that, the knife works better than when I got it, so mission accompished.
 
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