NEF Shotgun for home defence

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Is the shotgun mentioned good for homedefence? also what is the differance between a 20ga, 12ga and 10ga. I know that the 10ga is the biggest round and has the most kick. Anyway, i have seen some of these shotguns(NEF) for around 130 here, i was wondering if that is a reasonable price for it being new.
 
Most people wouldn't recommend a single shot firearm for home defense.

$130 sounds OK, but for a bit more you could get a decent pump shotgun that holds 4 or 5 rounds.

10 gauge isn't very common; stick with 12 or 20. If recoil is an issue, get the 20.
 
It's not the best choice. All you have is one shot. If you need another shot, you have to open the action, place another shell in the chamber, close it, and cock the hammer before you can fire again. If you look, you should be able to find a pump action for less than $200.

also what is the differance between a 20ga, 12ga and 10ga. I know that the 10ga is the biggest round and has the most kick.
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Gauge is an oblique and obsolete way to refer to bore diameter. The smaller the gauge, the larger the caliber.

The 10 gauge is more of a specialty gun for a waterfowl hunter.

The 12 gauge is probably the best option.

The 20 gauge will have less recoil and muzzle blast, but is still a good option.
 
gauge (shotgun bore size) is the number of lead balls the diameter of the shotgun bore that equals a pound of lead.... .410 is bore size in inches.... go with a pump, preferably a barrel of around 21 inches with screw in chokes
 
A pump is better but I wouldn't want to face anyone inside a house armed with even a single shot shotgun.IMHO it would be more important to use the gun enough to be comfortable and familiar with it under stress.I would rather face someone who had only handled a pump shotgun a couple times than someone who had hunted with and used a single shot for years.

I would reccomend #4 shot for a 12 or 20 gauge inside the house.You will have more pellets ,be plenty effective at close range,but not have to worry about shooting a child in the back bed room through walls.
 
R.H.Clark said:
A pump is better but I wouldn't want to face anyone inside a house armed with even a single shot shotgun.IMHO it would be more important to use the gun enough to be comfortable and familiar with it under stress.I would rather face someone who had only handled a pump shotgun a couple times than someone who had hunted with and used a single shot for years.

I would reccomend #4 shot for a 12 or 20 gauge inside the house.You will have more pellets ,be plenty effective at close range,but not have to worry about shooting a child in the back bed room through walls.
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Quoted for truth! Great info here! A maverick by mossberg is another economical option.
 
if you go to walmart and get a 20GA shotgun pump about $225, you can remove the plug (for home defense only!!!) and have 4+1 waiting for a would be intruder. With that many shots, you could cut them in half. Plus, the pump sound is a deterrent all its own.
 
Great call about the shot R.H.Clarke. That is a process which many people under stress fail to calculate. Innocent people die by these mistakes. Don't go near buckshot. #3 is even too high. No one is going to reach for a weapon with 60 hot beads in their lung. sad thing to think about though. I guess thats the sad reality
 
A shotgun is the best thing for home defense. I would spend the extra and get a pump and practice till loading and firing is second nature. I have handguns loaded in my house but they are there till i can fight my way to a long gun!
 
you can greatly improve your shot gun handling skills with regular practice... and competition is a fun way to practice... most practical shooting clubs have organized shotgun matches ....well designed stages will emphasize the use of cover and concealment...reloading under stress...weak handed shooting...shooting from unusual positions (Ft Benning had a port in a narrow hallway about 6inches off the ground last year) ..and familiarization with your particular shotgun will teach you some of its capabilities and liabilities
 
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R.H.Clark said:
A pump is better but I wouldn't want to face anyone inside a house armed with even a single shot shotgun.IMHO it would be more important to use the gun enough to be comfortable and familiar with it under stress.I would rather face someone who had only handled a pump shotgun a couple times than someone who had hunted with and used a single shot for years.I would reccomend #4 shot for a 12 or 20 gauge inside the house.You will have more pellets ,be plenty effective at close range,but not have to worry about shooting a child in the back bed room through walls.
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That right there is the key. if you have to look to do anything take safety off,load, put safety on, go practice some more!!!! I don't have a problem using a single shot for defence. but there again I was told I had to have some one else hunting with me because no one can shoot a singleshot that fast . I am 49 years old I have been hunting and shooting since I was ten. 90% of it with a single shot so I have had plenty of practice

Roy
 
I don't think there's anything wrong with a single-shot, you certainly will want to make it count! But for a little bit more, you can buy a used Remington or Mossberg pump with 3-5 round tube. Pump actions are pretty-much indestructible and can be passed to your grand children.
 
I have a .410 single shot that sits in the corner near my bed. (I also have a Ruger SP-101 within reach) Before anyone pooh-poohs consider this. Since Taurus
came out with their Judge series of revolvers, the .410 is now considered a viable self defense cartridge. How many of you would like to face 5 40 caliber balls
at about 1000 feet per second?

.410 defense ammo has taken huge leaps in the last few years.
 
NEF makes some 12 Ga. pump guns (the Pardner Pump and Pardner Protector) which are Rem. 870 clones. They cost under $200. I am thinking of getting one myself, if I can't find a used Rem. 870 for that price.

They are of Chinese manufacture, but get excellent reviews for quality and reliability. If the political baggage doesn't bother you, they're a good buy.
 
Get a Remington 870 with an 8 round magazine. Look for one with a pistol grip and no stock, is much more maneuverable for home defense in close quarters.
 
jarodmichael said:
if you go to walmart and get a 20GA shotgun pump about $225, you can remove the plug (for home defense only!!!) and have 4+1 waiting for a would be intruder. With that many shots, you could cut them in half. Plus, the pump sound is a deterrent all its own.
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I have not seen a gun in walmart since 2009 i think!

A pump is more devestating but with a single shot ill make it count.
 
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If all you can afford is a single shot, go for it. I would recommend a 20 ga unless you enjoy pain. A NEF single shot shotgun weighs less then 6 pounds. Even with light loads,
recoil will be stiff and it is important that you practice with it. If it hurts to shoot, you won't do it. Keep in mind that at common self defense ranges (15 to 21 feet) your pattern
will be the size of your hand or smaller. In Hollywood you can spray shot all over the place. In real life it doesn't work that way. You have to aim and ALWAYS shoot from the shoulder.

With some practice and correct technique, you can reload a single shot almost as fast operating a pump. What? You don't believe me? Watch a SASS competition and see
how fast those guys can reload a shotgun.
 
My HD firearms are: 870 Police 20" with extended tube and light, LMT M4 clone kitted out, Glock 17 and a NEF 12Guage. As you can see, I have options and STILL include the NEF. If it is all you have handy or can afford- you are still well armed. I was a dealer for 6 years and many people that walked in thinking they needed the latest uber 9, left with a NEF 20 guage. Months later they had the bug and came back for a second gun and all were happy with their first choice. I even bungee mine on my ATV rack(empty in transit) with an ammo sleeve around the stock. Some slings are made with ammo bandoliers built in.

9 times out of 10, the invader you are most likely to meet is for theft & he has no interest in fighting for his life to steal your belongings.
 
first of all, get a 12 guage.
second, dont get a single shot!
third, load up with slugs or 00buckshot for HD.

now with shotguns, being able to hold more is ususally better cuz your not gonna be reloading quickly unless you get a saiga. so I suggest a mossberg 590 (8+1 in the chamber=great!). cost about 350 from big5 when its on sale. its better then an 870 cuz reloading and getting your finger stuck in the mag area sucks!!!! plus it holds more and is cheaper and better.

now that you got your shotgun, go to a range and start off with birdshot and move your way up. 12guage does kick but if you learn to shoot it right, it will put down a bear if need be. if the recoil is too much, get a limbsaver as well as a knoxx spec ops stock to tame it (it does work if you use it correctly).
 
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