Nepal: Maoist locks official in toilet

In before the commie apologists. :mad:

Communism is NEVER good. Sadly the poor people of Nepal will learn this the hard way.
 
But they showed restraint enough not to give him a swirlee.[/Commie Apologist]

I'm joking. While this incident does smack of playground bullying, there are ominous overtones. I'm not so concerned about the fact that he was in a bathroom, but being detained without probable cause does.
 
spiraltwista said:
Is rabies prevelant in the USA Hiram? or is just isolated outbursts? :D


Spiral
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Communism triggers rabid responses among any American who values freedom... I understand however that it is warmly welcomed in Europe seeing as they are only a "revolution" away from morphing to communism from their current socialist state. Communism is antithetical to freedom of the mind, body and spirit.
 
HiramRanger said:
Communism triggers rabid responses among any American who values freedom... I understand however that it is warmly welcomed in Europe seeing as they are only a "revolution" away from morphing to communism from their current socialist state. Communism is antithetical to freedom of the mind, body and spirit.
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Your probably correct there certenly re. freedom of mind regarding communism, {IMHO] But speaking as if your the all seeing, all knowing reincarnation of God & not allowing others to make there choices whether right or wrong & going all mcarthy style at any european or American who believes in medical care or education for all as commie lovers, rather shows you in your true light. Your mirror is a very ugly place, probably as ugly as your vision of others.

Spiral
 
Very true. Railroaded, maligned, intentionally slandered, but ultimately right.

Any mirror that hates communism is a mirror worth having. The others are warped.
 
spiraltwista said:
Your probably correct there certenly re. freedom of mind regarding communism, {IMHO] But speaking as if your the all seeing, all knowing reincarnation of God & not allowing others to make there choices whether right or wrong & going all mcarthy style at any european or American who believes in medical care or education for all as commie lovers, rather shows you in your true light. Your mirror is a very ugly place, probably as ugly as your vision of others.

Spiral
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I can live with your derision. I attacked a belief system that seeks to enslave. You attacked a person who disagrees with you. Who truly believes in freedom here? The person who voices an opinion and allows you to voice your's no matter how hateful, or the person who viciously attacks anybody who questions an orthodoxy that has never proven beneficial to anyone. May your chains rest lightly upon you comrade.
 
Aren't you overlooking the fact that the chastised was a corrupt fatcat Bureaucrat? :D
:confused: Or is the USA not so plagued with these as we are in Britain?
 
Good grief. I'm shocked, shocked that anyone thinks that only communism has power-hungry idiots in power. I've never seen that in Washington. Oh no.

Hiram, I don't like power hungry creeps, whatever the political stripe. There's no excuse for communist power hungry creeps, but there's also no excuse for neo-con, republican, democratic, liberal, fascist, or corporate power hungry creeps. The problem isn't the system they masquerade under, it's the color of their character. Any system can enslave people if it's allowed to. As an American, you should remember that. I certainly do. And I'm still proud I live here, regardless.
 
I think here Communism is a red herring (to borrow a line from "Clue"). I have been somewhat suspicious of the Maoists based on their previous tactics, but that really has little to do with their claimed subscription to Mao-style communism per se.

One of their politic ideas I don't like is their plan to try to change Nepal's government into a (USA-style) presidential system (where a single person gains more power) from the current parliamentary system.

By the bye, the bureacrat may have deserved being locked in the toilet - I don't know. The article mentioned something about illegal stone mining.
 
Thanks for your insights Beoram.

HiramRanger, you mistake me much, but I expect thats common in your life, intresting White knight & cross avatar you have there, its a bit indistict though{ { or perhaps my eyesight as the years roll by?} , is it a white hood & flaming cross by any chance?

Your own country rightly through off the Royals over 200 years ago.

It was You got personal with aspersions at people who have disagreed with you in your first post in this thread, aimed at any one who stood up to your bigotry on other threads historicaly.

You think Im a communist? That is so funny!

Here a big kiss for you... X! Forall the joy & goodness youmust have brought to this world.



Spiral
 
fearn said:
Good grief. I'm shocked, shocked that anyone thinks that only communism has power-hungry idiots in power. I've never seen that in Washington. Oh no.

Hiram, I don't like power hungry creeps, whatever the political stripe. There's no excuse for communist power hungry creeps, but there's also no excuse for neo-con, republican, democratic, liberal, fascist, or corporate power hungry creeps. The problem isn't the system they masquerade under, it's the color of their character. Any system can enslave people if it's allowed to. As an American, you should remember that. I certainly do. And I'm still proud I live here, regardless.
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Yep, all these isms are but brand names for the same product. The politics are but variations on a theme of power/tyranny/what have you.

I'm reminded of a joke told by Durcet in Pasolini's Salo:

"Umberto, what does a Bolshevik do when he jumps into the Red Sea? He goes 'splash'!"
 
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All forms of government (yes damnit, even democracy) have an inherent flaw. Communism is more vulnerable to this flaw than many other forms of government, which is why it has always turned out bad.

The flaw? Human nature. Humans are a) stupid and b) corruptible. Hence anyone can get further and faster ahead by being a dick than by being a saint. Even here in North America politicians spend most of their time skewering their opponents or engaging in various peccadilloes.

The sort of knee-jerk reaction that I see around here all too often saddens me. The only reason democracy is any different is because it grants the public the right to scrutinise their leaders and what they are doing on a regular basis. Thinking that democracy is inherently more noble or something is an illusion. It's just more cynical about the sort of leaders it will attract, and therefore a bit better at weeding out the crooks and petty tyrants.



In short, Communism as an ideal isn't a particular terrible idea, but it's extremely naive to think that it won't be completely subverted by unscrupulous persons. That's why communism doesn't work, and that's why democracy has elections and/or referendums on a regular basis.
 
Great post by Fearn{sorry missed it earlier.] & wisdom from C.S. graves.

All isms make great theoretical discusians but in practice like with many religions as well the interpreters, adminstrators & enforcers twist it to increase there personal gain & power.

Kazeryu, I agree with most of your sentiments, but one point you seem to be missing is the communist goverment of Nepal is actualy democratic at this point, some 90% of the electorate voted them in.

I fear for the futre & hope at the same time that it stays democratic. I wont belive it till I see it. But I hope for them. Nothing ever has historicaly so far..

Spiral
 
Sounds like a petty personal dispute more than anything - playground bullying is right. The article is kind of crummy - if the incident triggered a major strike, there could be more to it. Although given Uncle Bill's opinions of the average charpi, it must've been pretty serious punishment.
 
spiral, you make a good point, I hadn't thought about that part of it. It will be interesting to watch it for a while.
 
Communism doesn't work. Communism has never worked. There's no good reason to believe an economic system whose modern originator was unable to provide for his family, and lost children to starvation will magically one day work.

The only time communism comes close to working, is when it allows capitalistic elements to prosper, as has happened in the PRC. The PRC seems to be aware of this, as they claimed they would leave Hong Kong alone...

John
 
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