New and thinking of buying a Busse

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Hey Everyone, I've never had a Busse before; just played with some of my uncle's. They seem GREAT and I hear some good things about Busse and was thinking of getting A Busse Basic #9 or a Busse Battle Mistress. I will be in the military before long and hear they allow you to use your Busse and that Busse is excellent for military use.

I wondered if anyone with experience with these could tell me a bit about them and your overall impression. It would be much appreciated :)
 
It would take too long to explain in one post. You are best off searching through the Busse forum for previous posts and you'll get an eyeful of praise, and then some.
Busse knives are superb heavy-duty knives. I would take the BM over the basic, or maybe a Steeheart II if you want a slightly smaller knife,
Infi, which is the metal Busse uses, is incredible stuff. I love these knives, and so do many others. Plus, Busse has the best warranty in the business, as they say.
 
Welcome, BlueFlintHawk!
If you are going into the military, DON'T just think about buying a Busse: BUY the Busse! It will become your best friend, the dependable pal you can lean upon when chopping, prying, digging, cutting, bashing, building, demolishing, whittling, carving, limbing, splitting, fileting, shaving, stabbing, slashing, poking, prodding, hitting, hammering, or otherwise changing your world...!!!
"Ya can't keep the money, kid; ya CAN keep the Busse..."
Forever.
But... y'know, if you DON'T want the toughest, strongest, keenest, easiest to sharpen, wear resistant, corrosion resistant, super-hard, easy-to-restore-edge-cuz-it-rolls-not-chips, handiest piece of metal made on earth: that's OK, no really: that'll mean more INFI for me...
And, that's good, really. I can live with that;
The real question is, can YOU live without it?
i don't think so....
And i'm not alone...
That's why so many of us opted to use our money to support the American troops in Afghanistan by paying for "part of" a Busse knife sent to our front line boys/men in the Patriot tags option: a Busse knife sent to them means better utility for them, maybe a life or more saved, in the heat of fierce battle: we may NEVER know, this side of the Jordan River.... But we Busse Buyers/Users/Abusers BELIEVE in the product of Jerry Busse; as much as he does; & with his Lifetime Guarantee (for the life of the KNIFE! not merely the "original owner"), he believes in it.
INFI-Tough is not just a slogan: it's a reality: but TRY one for yourself: and you will be LIGHT-YEARS ahead of your buds with Ka-bars & other common tools, going IN. Don't even hesitate. If you find that you just can't use it, for some unforeseeable reason, you can sell it to me; or a hundred others who frequent this forum who might get there before i do... The question isn't "IF" it's "WHEN"...
Now is good.

Nuclear Powered,
Climber Clif
Cuz INFI Rocks, That's Why!!! :cool:
Oh Yeah, "Overall Impression" (Almost Forgot ;) ) If you do anything in the military like what we do in the woods or society or in martial arts (see above for details); and you DON'T get a busse, then you will regret NOT getting one "Above All Regret."
 
I have been reading through the Busse forum a lot and your post pushed me over the edge; I am going to buy a Busse now no matter what. The only question now is Basic 9 or Battle Mistress?

Thank you for noticing my signature - I spent a bit of time on it... excellent quote! Carefully selected :)

I plan on being in the Army and especially am interested in being a Ranger and have been for a while. I have been training myself for endurance and strength lately as well as conquering some of my fears like... *gasp* heights :rolleyes: My father was in DF and has been my trainer for the past year - since I became very interested in being in the military, especially being an elite fighter.

Thanks for your input!
 
Rob -- i'm a Rock Climbing Instructor, among other things...
Where in Cali do you Live?
Perhaps i can direct you to someone to help with that height thing...

#9 or Missy... Hmmm. Depends entirely upon your hand, really. Both are tougher than any environment can dish out...
Perhaps your budget, too; but if you have to ask, then, you can afford either one...! ;)
 
As far as heights go I've gone as far as climbing a rope 50 feet high with relative ease... I'm getting better with it. I live in Three Rivers, CA. Right at the entrance of Sequoia National Park.
 
Ack!
i personally don't know anyone in 3 Rivers who teaches; thot it was worth a shot, tho. Great Area, tho: Wow. Have Climbed all along the Sierras, east side, & west, + plus many other areas in Cali~. Lived there for 12 years before Colorado, then the Flatland of Nebr... ugh.
If i think of someone, tho, i 'll relay that info to ya... If you have a Climbing gym around, they may teach outdoor "on-scene" climbing: it would be worth the lessons, just for the comfort level & confidence gained; you'll take that with you into every situation after that, & "ya know that can't be bad..."

Busse #9: you have it in your finely-crafted signature, times two: (Love that background!) since you spent so much time with it, & the Niner is the most comfortable handle of the two, get it. Eventually, you may want the Battle Mistress; ... but there isn't anything the Niner can't handle, really. As one person put it, the failure levels are far higher on these things than we humans can muster...and the toughness differences are not noticeable to mortals... ;)
Have a Great Day, Rob!
Nuclear Powered, And Lovin' it...
Clif
 
Yes, my uncle has a #9 and it is my favorite of his knives; that is why I put it in my signature. Thanks for the advice and suggestions, they are much appreciated!
 
Welcome to the Busse side of the world :) Congrats on going into the military, best of luck with everything. Both the BB9, Mistress-E, & SH Mistress are great knives, I've one of each for a user and way too many SH Mistresses. Between the BBM9 and Mistress-E I find myself picking up the Mistress-E more often when I need a large blade. Not due to any short comings of the BB9, just that the Mistress-E has a certain feel to it that I don't feel comfortable without anymore. Hard to describe but you'll know exactly what I'm talking about after just a week or so of use. For me the textured canvas micarta handle is also slightly more comfortable than the BB's respirine handle. Althought I think it's mainly due to the Mistress-E's wider configuration, which fits my hand better.

So between those two I would recommend the Mistress-E, but just based on my personal experience, you can't go wrong with either knife.
 
Rob,
Welcome to the Forums and very nice Sig. Line ;):) As Climber so eloquently stated you can't go wrong with a Busse no matter which one you choose.
One thing I would recommend though is try to make it to a Show that Papathud(West Coast Dealer/Distributor) is at. That way you can handle a number of the different Busses and choose the one that fits your hand the best..
And don't rule out some of the other Busse Knives, the NO or Basic 7 may fit the bill for the Military and will be a little less weight to worry about. :):D:D

Let us know what you choose.
 
Welcome to the forum. i'm new myself and I have decidid to go with the Natural Outlaw for ease if cary, and still be able to do the bigger jobs not as well as a big knife but I think it is a good compromise. :D
 
Rob,

I like your webname and love your signature. Very apt quotation.

Welcome to our Busse INFI madness! Since you've already worked with Busse knives, there's little I can tell you that your experience hasn't already conveyed. As noted by others, any of the Busse blades will provide you a bomb-proof knife that will perform at the highest level. I totally concur with the recommendation to visit a show where Andre DuMochel has a table so that you can handle several different Busse models to see which one fits best in your hand. The ergonomics of handles and handling are extremely subjective. Any recommendations from me (or anyone else) should take a solid backseat to what your hand tells you as you handle the knives. Andre is our California "Mr Busse Man" & a great guy to deal with, as well as just talk to about Busse knives. Go ahead and email him to find out when and where he'll be available for you to check out some Busse blades.

Here's a consideration as you decide which Busse to buy: Some military commands have restrictions on blade size that would deny you carrying the Battle Mistress or Basic 9. I recall reading over on the Camillus forum that the Becker Combat Utility Knife was designed with its 7" blade specifically to meet some of the military's limits on blade size. It'd be terrible to get a Busse, then not be able to deploy it with you into a theater of operations. :mad:

Consequently, you could look at getting a Basic 7 with its 7" blade or a Natural Outlaw with 6" blade to prevent buying a blade that you later can't carry in the field. If anyone here has been a Ranger, maybe they will pass along any info they have on blade length limits. It may also be possible to pose the question onto a website to get a more definitive answer that will help guide your buying decision. If you can't establish a definite blade size limit before going into service, you could leave some $$ with your Dad until you get the answer from your command. Then have your Dad use the $$ to buy a size of Busse that you can carry.

I'm very glad to hear that your dad is passing along training and knowledge based on his experiences in the military. There's often wisdom that can be gained only by having "been there, done that" that can save your butt. He'll know what's important to focus on, pay attention to, and emphasize. Please congratulate him for me on being a father whose care for his son is shown in his actions, not just in words.

Yours in nuclear combat-proven blades,
Greg

(edited to add) Just saw Andre's thread titled "Team BUSSE Show Info - Cow Palace (San Francisco)" for a show this weekend. I don't know how close you are to SF, but that'd be a good place to test out a bunch of Busses for fit to your hand.
 
Another consideration is weight. You'll be carrying a lot of stuff. I'd go with a Basic 7 for length requirements and less weight, regardless of your hand size, plus it's less expensive and frankly that is a consideration for us younger guys. Just as in civilian life, the motto for gear is "the least amount you have to carry that will let you accomplish the most". Sometimes that's a fine line and it varies, but no matter what you pick, you WON'T hurt the knife. Good luck!

-Travis
 
Welcome to the forum.....

Being ex-military, and one that was in the feild ALL the time.
I love the Satin Jack.
When I was in we didn't have INFI. My carry knife was a 5" pilots survival knife. Sure I broke the tip off, but I would just reprofile it.
I did every thing with that knife, shelters, cut C4, detcord, wire, dug holes, pryed, The size never let me down.
It would fit on my pack, my belt, my boot any where I needed to fit it in, it would go.
It was also a travel companion, it would be strapped to the frame of my back pack as I traveled around Europe and Africa.
When it came time for public trasportation, it easily fit into an outside pocket just in case I needed to get to it in a hurry.
The Satin Jack is 1/4" about a 6" blade, straight handle, macarta,
feels great in the hand, can be made in to a spear quickly, and will handle any thing you can throw at it.
It is only $227.00 for the combat grade and is usually avaliable.
I feels good left or right, forward or reverse grip, and is easy to handle quickly.....just a thought..
Good luck, Chuck
 
BlueFlintHawk,
Welcome to the forum!! I agree with Chuck about the Satin
Jack. I hike alot in the mountains, and nearing forty:( ,
weight is becoming an issue with me. I think the Satin Jack
and even the Natural Outlaw would make a great field knife.
I like the handle on the Satin Jack, but I have smaller hands.
Good luck with your military career!!! And don't be a stranger.
Take care,
 
Thanks for all your ideas and suggestions! I am looking at all the knives suggested and trying to plan on going to the SF show. I'll also have to hook up with my uncle again - he has a Satin Jack, a #9 and a Natural Outlaw. I found out about Busse in the first place from my dad - he said he and some of the other d-boys were never to be found anywhere anytime without one. He has a #9 at the moment. He has too many other toys to take up his money to have more than one or two Busses right now. Oh yea... and mum has to have her toys too. Of course I have to pay for my own toys... I've scrounged up about $220 so far towards the knife.

Thanks again, much appreciated!
 
Did I hear Satin Jack:eek: I love that knife. I have had mine for almost a week, and I love it. You cannot go wrong with a Busse, so there is really no need to think about it:D Good luck on your aspirations, and welcome to the forums.

Nice signature.
 
I also suggest the Satin Jack. I really like its handle, and it should be plenty compact. Whatever you buy, as long as it's a Busse, you can't go wrong!
 
Well, Rob, have we confused ya enough to make a decision yet?
My friend i visited with a couple days back (well, 1-24) said that at his army base, a THREE-INCH BLADED KNIFE was maximum!!! He said you could OWN one longer, but it had to be locked up in the weapons room at night, & most other times as well. i had a hard time believing that, but with crackdowns in this country, perhaps it has come to that... He said that during deployment, you could wear / wield about anything, of any size, in bladeware, but they would arrest you just as fast in the military barracks during "normal operations" as if CCW in society...
i didn't want to rain on your parade, believe me, for i think that a military man, or any American man for that matter, should have the right to carry a tool, or yes, a weapon, as he sees fit: that's just American Self-Government: but if that rule is so, that is a royal setback! PLEASE check it out, tho, for it is only ONE source of info~ maybe it's not true at every base... ASK B4 you go in...!
i noticed several of my Busse compadres here on this thread recommended the Satin Jack to you as your workhorse knife....
The Satin Jack is THE all-time Best middle-length knife around: of course it has the BEST NAME on Earth any knife could have, too: Ahem. :rolleyes:
The Limited Edition has Symmetrical Grind, Bee-Yoo-Tee-Full convex edging, almost non-existant resistance while cutting ANYTHING, plus super strength AT that edge.
Of course, you could get a custom from the Busse Custom-Shop with that grind on ANY model; as is my nine-inch Busse; or what YOU choose, since we're talking custom...
Can you tell yet, that NONE of us here can stop at One Busse Knife?
Different tasks, different tools. Same Awesome Material & Maker, tho: Busse INFI Steel....:cool:
Nuclear Powered,
Climber Clif
 
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