New arrival (more good news)

Rsmith_77

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For those that saw what happened in the "what tradition knife are you totin today" thread. I was admiring a knife that Sitflyer posted. It was a shrade old timer 123OT.
Seeing my interest, Sitflyer decided that I needed to try it out for myself. So when I got home the other day this was waiting for me. Since today is my day off I got a few pics and thought I would post them for ya'll.

Once again, I gotta thank Sitflyer specifically and you guys in general, never have I met so many generous folks. thank you agai

Now, the pics

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My initial thoughts:

well first of all, its a bit bigger than i thought based on his picture, about 4" inches closed and slightly over 3" blade. This is not a bad thing, it fits PERFECTLY in my watch pocket of my jeans and with the little leather lanyard that came with it ...its just perfect for work. I took it to work yesterday and it performed WONDERFULLY.

Its my first shrade/old timer. The steel retains its edge slightly better than case's CV and is actually slightly easier to sharpen from what I can see, it didnt take much to have it shaving hair after a full 8 hours of work. Its full flat ground, VERY thin, both the blade and the handle. I suspect its carbon steel (but i haven't used it on food or anything yet so I am not positive). Great snap, great fit and finish its just a great knife and a better gift.

Anyways, thanks again Sitflyer and I hope the rest of you enjoyed the pics

Ryan
 
Hi Ryan!

Great looking knife. I like that brown delrin handles. I have also two american made Schrades. Pretty old (the oldest should be from the 70s) but both still have an absolutelly fine walk and talk.

Kind regards
Andi
 
I did see that exchange, it was a generous and beautiful gesture! I am glad to hear you are pleased with it, a great knife for sure. Good pictures Ryan!
 
thanks guys.

now i am on fleabay eyeball more of these old american made old timers!!!
this knife has impressed me very much (much more so than case, which my experience has been pretty hit or miss actually)
 
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Ryan, congrats for you new knife, and for your new beginning.
And a mention for Sitflyer and his generosity.

Fausto
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My uncle always has carried the full size version, I had no idea about that one! That's really nice!
 
That doesn't surprise me in the least. A lot of good guys can be found on this forum. A couple of weeks ago I emailed a forumite about a knife. A few days later a box shows up in the mail containing the very knife I asked about. I was blown away by his generosity.

- Christian
 
thanks guys!
oh and i know how generous folks around here can be

my wife on the other hand thinks i sit around begging you guys for knives (why else would people keep sending them to me)
cant convince her that its just a good group of folks around here :D
 
so, been using this knife for work, just about every day.
noticed it gets rusty, just about every day

so i stuck it in an apple for about 16 hours and then wrapped vinegar soaked paper towels around it for a couple hours to start the patina
today, didnt notice any rusting on it (yay!)

here are some pics

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Yeah, I'll say it looks good.
I had that problem with one of my 1095 work knives. A little vinegar and the patina of protection was started. :thumbup:
 
yeah its a great knife...
ironically its still showing rust spotting through this patina
i trying to wipe it down every night and putting a layer of mineral oil every 2nd evening
hopefully it will work itself out after a certain amount of time..

i have noticed something weird. sometime when i pull the knife out of my watch pocket, its wet
i THINK its sweat from my hip...condensation from sweat/humidity. weird.

doesnt change the fact it was a wonderfully generous gesture and a wonderful knife
i just dont think i ever worked this hard with a carbon steel blade before :D
 
Rsmith_77 said:
yeah its a great knife...
ironically its still showing rust spotting through this patina
i trying to wipe it down every night and putting a layer of mineral oil every 2nd evening
hopefully it will work itself out after a certain amount of time..

i have noticed something weird. sometime when i pull the knife out of my watch pocket, its wet
i THINK its sweat from my hip...condensation from sweat/humidity. weird.

doesnt change the fact it was a wonderfully generous gesture and a wonderful knife
i just dont think i ever worked this hard with a carbon steel blade before :D
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Its because that patina is not thick enough. If you want to speed things up get some acentone and vinegar. Heat the vinegar until it boils then let it cool just until you can stick your finger in it. Clean off the blade WELL with acetone and then stick the blade into the hot vinegar for a while. You can take it out to check often and clean any spots that aren't darkening with the acetone and just dip it right back into the vinegar. Once you get it where you want just rinse it with cold water and then toss it in a little container of mineral oil. Let it soak and then clean it all up real well. If you do this I can't see rust getting past the layer of oxidation.
 
I don't want to hijack the thread, just a question for Kevin on this.
Why do you suggest acetone and not, for example, isopropyl alcohol or ethylic ether to clean the knife?
Someday soon I will get my HJ6 and I'm thinking about forcing a patina on it. Since I've never done it (so far, I just let the patina grow up naturally) I planned on asking advice here...and your post pushed me to ask this. First I thought about emailing you, but then I realized it might be interesting for others as well.

Fausto
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Hey Fasuto,

I use greased buffing compounds when I sharpen and also when I play around with making knives. Pohan Leu helped me a ton with my work and the one thing he told me for cleaning off the compounds was acetone. I satin finish with cork belts and compound. Nothing really got it off like acetone. I would send him a pic of my work for feedback and he would laugh and tell me ACETONE! When I have played with forcing a patina nothing else really preps the blade the same :)

Hope this is helpful,

Kevin
 
Kevin,
thanks for your answer. It seems it could be the right way to "prime" the blade before the vinegar (or any other treatment). I assume the "priming" can be a very important step to make a good and "uniform" patina. thanks for your help.

Fausto
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