New Astronomy Toys

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"They" say 'There's no fool like and old fool' and here I am, almost 76 and I caught the astronomy bug. Ah well, why not? Ham radio is almost dead. It began dying when the ARRL got the FCC to lower licensing standards and the formerly polite Ham bands have become the playground for fans of foul language and zero knowledge of proper operating. I've also given up hunting in recent years and travel leaves me stone cold after 25 years in the Army and 10 more as a servile servant doing weapons assessments and testing for DoD. Also in that mix was five years as a contractor doing site security assessments for DOE. Travel was my middle name.

So, what else would be interesting and challenging? Ahhh, astronomy and unfortunately, like Ham radio, also expensive.

I'm now the (somewhat) proud owner of four scopes. Two five inch Maksutov reflectors, one seven inch Mak, and a 12 inch Dobsonian mirror reflector. One of the five inch Maks and the big Dob are equipped with 'goto' computers. You center one, two, or three stars, depending on the accuracy desired, in a crosshaired eyepiece, press 'enter' after centering each, and the scope now knows where it is. It can now 'go to' any of 40,000 different celestial objects and track it across the sky. Fantastic! I also 'sprung' for a fancy tripod and mount that is computerized and provides 'goto' for any scope mounted on it, primarily the seven inch Mak.

Such scopes and the 'goto' tripod/mount are expensive, as are the many needed (maybe) accessories. You can start out 'on the cheap' but, if you're like me, you quickly want more power, automation, choice of eyepieces, better tripods and mounts, filters, camera adapters, and so on. It's pretty much a custom market for such toys and the suppliers charge accordinagly. I splurged initially but have now reached the point where I'm well equipped for now and can back off the impulse buying.

However, I must say it's a fascinating new hobby and one that can never be completely mastered. I spent most of last night, with a super clear night sky, tracking Jupiter as it went across from east to west. I had the big planet (about 400 million miles distant) with its main band and all four of the larger moons in view for hours. This may be old hat for some of you but for me it's a whole new world.

It's equally amazing to track our moon for hours while focused on one set of craters or a mountain range in amazing detail at up to 500 power. Sometimes the views are so sharp and clear you have to keep reminding yourself what you're seeing is 240,000 miles away....!

A neat wrinkle with the smaller scopes is the ability to install correct orientation prisms for the eyepiece and you now have the world's most powerful spotting or observation scopes. The five inchers will easily go up to 250 power and the seven inch Mak to 350 or a bit more. The 12 inch Dob is too big for this with its 12 inch diameter and six foot long tube on a big and clunky mount. The Dob is superb for sky watching but not easily portable to use as a spotter. The rule of thumb for power, by the way, is approximately 50 power for each inch of the scope's diameter. You can go beyone that limit but the resolution and brightness falls off rapidly with power increases past that 50x per inch of diameter.

So what's next? I guess install or build an observatory on top of my house so I can leave the bigger scopes permanently mounted up there. I was surprised to Google 'home observatories' and discover a number of manufacturers make them, some like a miniature Mount Palomar setup, circular and rotating with a roof that opens and all that. Might be a great DIY project. I'm already considering roller skate wheels running in tracks to rotate such a structure plus how to weather proof a rool that opens. What the hay? My hobbies keep me young or at least thinking young.
 
the observatory sounds like a great project! I've always loved astronomy, but have yet to sink any real money into it :)
 
Please tell me you can take pictures?

I've always loved astronomy and your set up sounds impressive, does it auto track the object?
 
I have an older Meade ETX with a few eyepieces that's collecting dust. I should break it back out. Interesting things going on in the sky lately. Of course I got mine about 2yrs. before they started including the go to computer.
 
"They" say 'There's no fool like and old fool' and here I am, almost 76 and I caught the astronomy bug.

I just recently taught my precocious 8-year old niece to look for the North Star during one of our night walks.

Why not? The very first time ancient man looked up and beheld the heavens in the night sky was arguably the origins of almost all of our beliefs and disciplines that we now have. Its what made us evolve more into "humans".

And as Carl Sagan is often quoted as saying: "We are all made of star-stuff" so in essence, we are also looking back "from whence we came" and will eventually go back into. We are actually glimpsing into that which we truly belong: infinity.
 
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I love astronomy. The only thing that ruins it for me is the city lights. My girlfriend loves looking at the stars & i love photographing stars and the moon. As far as the ARRL, i used to live next to it in Newington, CT :-). CB is dead too sadly.
 
It's always good to have something to keep us out of trouble :D:thumbup:

Your hobby is very interesting...and I am truly envious! Too bad you gave up hunting though
 
glee, you should Google Meade and/or Orion. They have 'add on' computers now with the drive motors and the whole nine yards. You might also look at 'goto' mounts with tripods which make any scope mounted on them a goto.

knifenut1013. Yes, it auto tracks. When you enter what you want to look at on your hand controller, the scope quickly goes there and stays there. Plus, as we speak, I'm reprogramming two Nikon digitals to be more 'friendly' while scope mounted. Things like toning down the LCD displays so they don't ruin night vision so badly and increasing the time they'll stay on before auto shutoff. Also learning the ins and outs of a 'universal' camera mount. When I get there I'll post some.

bmilla35, I actually got tired of hunting after a tour as an Army advisor in Sudan. I went out on a lot of veldt and desert patrols with the Sudanese army on camels, horses, and on foot. We were all armed with Brit SMLEs and I was far and away the best shot. I took the noses off the full jacket military rounds by rubbing them on rocks and shot countless meat animals for the patrol unit, sometimes 100 or more people to feed. The Sudanese troops were always protein starved and after a while they fought to go on the patrols I accompanied just to get well fed on meat. Hunting loses its sense of thrill and challenge when it becomes 'meat market' hunting and butchering.

stormshadow, Google some of the purveyors of astronomical gear. You can get into some pretty nice setups for a few hundred bucks.

SuzukiGS750EZ, again, check the suppliers. They actually make filters now that block flourescent and incandescent light. Fortunately, I live on several acres in a rural area and New Mexico also has a 'Night Sky Protection Act' in force that prohibits blazing home lights and requires shading of street lights, etc. Pretty neat.

Anyway, thanks to all of you for reading. I always appreciate feedback and other's ideas.
 
I talked to Meade about retro-fitting my ETX with the new ETX drive and they said no. So, going with a generic mount will probably be what I have to do. But, too many other obsessions consuming all the money right now. Maybe later. Meanwhile I guess I'll have to do it the old fashioned way, search and track movement manually.
 
i am officially jealous.

i have an old refractor 'scope. i can see the moons of Jupiter with it, just. awesome for looking at the moon however.

when i build my house (one day :(), it'll have an observatory in it. along with a super swish 'scope.

i'm also in the market for a scope converter for my camera 400mm lens.

Please tell me you can take pictures?

should be able too. he'll need an adaptor for the eyepiece or a dedicated camera for the 'scope.

read: not cheap.
 
i got a an Orion starblast 6 and i LOVE it. the only thing i need on it to see Saturn's rings are the 3x shorty barlows. its a somewhat cheaper set up than the uber expensive deals but for the $$ its a great great GREAT starter scope.. couldnt be more happy with it. the pics are crystal clear. no fuzz at all
 
We spent a week at Fort Davis in Tx. going to their Star School. Had a great time but haven't really persuade it any farther.
 
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