Just got the Cutlery Shoppe catalog, some sweet new folders by CRKT/Crawford. They are both AUS-6M steel, Zytel scales, double SS liners. One is called a Point Guard, seems like a great price at $34 - 38, in two sizes (2.75 bl. & 3.5bl.) The other is a Crawford/Kasper/CRKT job, and is the spittin image of the Kasper FF - but quite a bit more affordable ! $41 - $45, 3" and 3 7/8" blades. This one looks very stout, but you pay a price in weight - the 3" blade is 4.0 oz., the larger is a whopping 7.4 oz. For comparison sake, the Delica & Endura Zytel are similiar blade sizes but weigh 1.9 and 2.9 oz. respectively. Anyone have experience with these knives ? Do they have clips, and if so, pivot or butt end ?