New D2 Queen Stockmans

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Greetings everybody. I just received two new D2 stockmans from Queen via Empire Knives. (Please see my GB&U review) Since today is garbage/recycle day, I got to do some testing of these along side my fairly new carbon series stockman from Camillus. I had a large pile of cardboard boxes to cut up. Out came the battle of the stockmans... I got the cocobolo and stag-bone models from Queen, and the carbon series with delrin-staglike from Camillus.
For a comparison, let's compare scales. Obviously the Queens rule here, the cocobolo is richly patterned/grained. The fit and finish is very nice. The stag-bone is a little lighter in color than I was expecting, but still very pleasing to the eye. Fit/finish very nice as expected. The Camillus has delrin fashioned into a faux stag pattern. The "jigging" is a little smooth, and the reddish color is a bit fakey in appearance. However, the fit/finish is also very nice.
Let's talk blades now. The Queens with their D2 had high expectations in my book. Interestinly enough, the stag-bone model had moderately dull blades... all three blades were affected, but the spey blade was the sharpest of the bunch. The cocobolo model came with all three blades nicely sharp, the spey blade very much so the sharpest of the three. The Camillus came with all three blades nicely sharp, though a tiny touch less than the cocobolo. The Queens all had a firm "walk and talk" All three blades on each model were almost too difficult to open, (gotta grow a longer fingernail or two) and each clunked open nicely. The Camillus also had a nice walk n' talk, but less pronounced than the Queens. I might even characterize it as "smoother". All in all, I am very happy with all three. I was thinking of giving the Camillus away to a fellow knife-knut, but I just cannot bear to do that now.
In my very unscientific cardboard-cutting orgy, the cocobolo D2 Queen reigned supreme. The Camillus was second, and the Queen stag-bone came in third due to the relative dullness of the blades.
I think all three will see regular rotation in my EDC category.
As a downer side note, my stag handled doctor's pattern knife was stolen out of my doctor's coat yesterday... talk about something to just take a major crap on your day.:mad: :mad: :mad: If I ever find out who took it, they may just find out what the spey blade was originally intended for!;)
Well, I encourage everyone to get a Queen D2 stockman and the Camillus carbon series too for that matter. All are fine knives.
Thanks everybody, Mongo
 
Hi Mongo. Sorry to hear about your doctor's knife.

I got my Cattle King (XL stockman) in Cocobolo today. I thought the blades were not quite as sharp as they should be. I also got a Spydie Endura II and that thing was shaving sharp. Anyways, I'll post a more complete review of the knife sometime tomorrow. Overall, it's a very nice knife for the money.
 
In my rush of a day yesterday, I neglected to mention one difference between the Queens and the Camillus... the overall thickness of the Queen clip blade was noticably thicker than the Camillus. More of a visual than functional difference though.
Komondor, I am interested to hear that your Queen was also not "shaving" sharp. I gotta do a search on the best sharpening system. It is time to take the plunge.
On a happy note, I found my Doctor's pattern knife. It was misplaced. I am very much relieved to know that I don't have a thief in my employ.
Y'all have a good day now, ya hear?

Mongo
 
It's not uncommon for production slipjoints to come less than
shaving sharp as they are work knives produced at a rapid pace.
Then there is the Ol' time thinking that each owner would rather
put his own edge on the knife that is still very true today.

Heck, I don't know of a knife on the planet that get used
that won't , in time, wind up with the owners edge anyway.
So it's never mattered to me how sharp a slipjoint is when
I buy it.
 
The more I handle my Cattle King, the more I like it. It is a beefy little pocket knife and, as Mongo said, the blades are thicker than on other slipjoints of comparable size.

The overall fit and finish is very good. The scale to bolster finish is flawless. The spring to liner fit is less than great, but it isn't that bad.

The scales themselves are very nicely patterned Cocobolo, with a fine veneer that doesn't seem too shiny or too dull. The Q shield is perfectly centered and leveled in the wood.

The clip blade is markedly sharper than the spey and sheepsfoot blades, but it can be sharper. All three will have to be touched up. The Queen Cutlery etch on the clip blade is not the cleanest I've seen--it's just a little smudgy--but it is centered on the blade well.

The walk and talk on this knife is excellent. The clip blade opens up with a fair amount of stiffness that says quality. The smaller blades are almost as hesitant. They close with a very satisfying "clank."

I also really like the grind on these blades. The swedges add an extra look of quality to the already thick blades.

Overall, a very sound knife for the money. I probably won't cut anything with it until I get them sharpened.
 
komondor, Your Queen stockman in combination with your
Supertool 200 make an excellent team for everyday pocket
carry for "do everything you can think of" utility.

That's the combo I've found that beats all others hands down.
The three blades of a stockman were chosen many years ago
for American daily needs and they still work as well as ever.

Give that Queen some time and you'll find that the only
thing you need to tote is the Queen & the 200.
 
I am definately going to get one of these soon. Anyone have word on how easy or difficult sharpening is? May be? What is the Queen hardness on RC ?
 
They do take a bit to sharpen. At least they stay sharp a long time to make up for that. I don't know what the RC is. I did a quick tang scratch test to get relative hardness (scratch the tang of one knife with the kick of another blade). My Buck BG-42 is harder than my Spyderco VG-10, which in turn is harder than the Queen D2.
 
Lambertiana;

Keep in mind that the tang area on a slipjoint will have been annealed (softened) at the factory after the heat treat of the blade. This is to give the blade a tad more flexibility, but more impotant, so that the tang and backspring don't wear each other out. Therefore, hardness testing on the tang will give different results as compared to the cuting portion of the blade.
 
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