NEW Design Pocket Folding Knife C5

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I do not own any Spyderco knives. I am hoping that I was right to report this seller (many aliases) to ebay regarding counterfeit selling. I am not sure if it will go anywhere, but could not just do nothing. In description it mentioned 440 steel, but on the knife it is etched 154cm. Am I just Spyderco ignorant????

NEW Design Pocket Folding Knife C5
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yykkyy77
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It's definitely fake. Spyderco's only have circular holes. The Byrd line uses the "comet" shape opener. There is no Spyderco with the Byrd hole opener.
 
It is a total fake. Spyderco trademark logo on the handle, Byrd trademark hole opener, and a design that is not from either company, past or present. I'd be willing to bet the price of the knife that the steel chemistry doesn't match either 440C or 154CM.
 
The seller is in China. He does not mention Spyderco, just New Design C5. His description is broken and obnoxious rude english. I perused the Spyderco website and searched the Byrd line. I did not see this model. I also checked 2" blade category and could not find anything similar. It just gets my Irish up when I see a blatant disregard for counterfeit. I wonder if Ebay will do anything about it.
 
I just reported it too.

Lets see if it gets pulled.Only 5h 37m left in the auction
 
Definitely is a fake. Design is not bad, but needs thumbstuds instead of the hole.
 
problem is these guys sell ER's and other high end knives by the fistfull, they start a new account under a fake name with a freebee email address and close their account before they can get any ratings. They do the same with North Face gear and lots of other stuff. If your seller is out of china and has yet to receive any feedback, just don't buy from them-take the safe route, it isn't worth it.
 
problem is these guys sell ER's and other high end knives by the fistfull, they start a new account under a fake name with a freebee email address and close their account before they can get any ratings. They do the same with North Face gear and lots of other stuff. If your seller is out of china and has yet to receive any feedback, just don't buy from them-take the safe route, it isn't worth it.

It is as you say, there are many aliases, with the same seller format. There are multiple feedbacks. I also saw Boker, Gerber, Recon1 and other look alikes being sold. I was hoping other members would report it as well, which is what they did. I think it is a good thing for us to do as a community, to report blatant counterfeit. Ebay sent me auto replies back that they will be checking into it. I would like to think we at least create a hassle for scofflaws in China. It is hard for me to do nothing about it.

Thanks guys for also reporting!!!!!!!!

CJ65 Mcdoogooder :)
 
Definitely is a fake. Design is not bad, but needs thumbstuds instead of the hole.

You made me chuckle! It would be hard to make people think they were getting a Spyderco or Byrd knife without the opening hole. Plus, thumbstuds just suck.
 
The seller is in China. He does not mention Spyderco, just New Design C5. His description is broken and obnoxious rude english. I perused the Spyderco website and searched the Byrd line. I did not see this model. I also checked 2" blade category and could not find anything similar. It just gets my Irish up when I see a blatant disregard for counterfeit. I wonder if Ebay will do anything about it.

If they get the message in time, they will stop it. Ebay isn't up for any more lawsuits than they have to face. When reported, although sometimes slowly, they respond.

Usually on the China sellers, they make them remove all articles of suspicious nature within a certain amount of time. If the seller doesn't, they remove them for him and stop his account.

I wouldn't think it would be that hard to get that guy. He has several of these knives up for auction over a few day period.

Robert
 
As consumers, we bear some responsibility in knowing the knives we're buying, or at least checking them out before sending payment. There are so many counterfeits on eBay that you really have to watch what you're buying. I got so fed up with things that for several months, I bought four or five counterfeit knives a day (many with prior bids) and then canceled my transactions on the basis that they were fraudulent. Then I'd leave blistering feedback and report the whole thing to eBay. Didn't take a whole lot of time and it was effective.

Many are billed as Spydercos. Many are billed as CRKTs and Cold Steel. Some are billed as Gerbers, though if you buy those counterfeits, odds are you'll end up with a better knife than if you'd bought a real Gerber. :D

When one sees a Cold Steel Recon-1 with a linerlock locking system, you can safely assume it's fake. If you go to Google, you can select "Images" and find pictures of the real knives. If they don't match, don't buy them. Some differences are subtle, but there are usually many differences you can see.

Ebay can be a bit lazy when you report items, but if you buy them, cancel the transactions, leave blistering feedback and report them to Ebay, you can have some satisfying moments. Back when lots of Chinese places were selling these crummy mp3 players that were 2GB (but advertised as 4), I'd buy those and then cancel, because I know the firmware had been scizzled to report 4GBs when the device was formatted. In reality, the files were written to the 2GB capacity, then the device would begin copying the rest of the files and overwriting the first. It made it appear just to be defective and, of course, most people wouldn't go through the hassle of sending them all the way back to China, so I bought dozens of them sometime and has all my evidence so I could copy and paste. I tissed off a lot of Chinese sellers, but also helped force Ebay into finally investigating them and locking these things out.
 
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I have a couple of Cold Steel Rajah IIs and love their size and strength. I haven't yet tried the Spartan yet, though it looks to be a very good, strong knife.

Does anyone own both? What are the pros and cons of both knives? I'd think the Rajah would be the best overall tool because of its ability to both chop and cut; however, the Spartan looks to be a great outdoor knife -- one that's virtually as strong as a fixed blade.

I just wish the blades were polished....

Ummm.... you realize this thread is about counterfeit knives, right?

Just checking.

Robert
 
Ummm.... you realize this thread is about counterfeit knives, right?
Yes, and I didn't leave that message here. Something's wrong with this system or my own little palm computer since my message was intended to be a new thread. I deleted this message once and put in the message I'd intended, but it did it again. Now I'm on my big computer.

My apologies.
 
you guys need to go onto dealextreme.com there are so many knives that are mock ups of boker and gerber, smith and wesson, I even saw a copy of the spyderco poliwog!!! and a copy of the kershaw E.T. there are just soooo many copies here...
 
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Yes, and I didn't leave that message here. Something's wrong with this system or my own little palm computer since my message was intended to be a new thread. I deleted this message once and put in the message I'd intended, but it did it again. Now I'm on my big computer.

My apologies.

Absolutely no need to apologize.

I was just checking, and in these days of rampant counterfeiting didn't want this thread to go off topic too quick until folks could read a bit on it to see just how prevalent it is today.

Robert
 
You made me chuckle! It would be hard to make people think they were getting a Spyderco or Byrd knife without the opening hole. Plus, thumbstuds just suck.

I'm talking about design in general. They tried to make it to look like a spyderco a bit too much. The pictures of the closed knife show that it would be very very difficult to open it using the byrd hole. With thumdstuds at least one would be able to open this knife using one hand. Change the name to Kershaw :)
 
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