New Figting Tomahawk designs

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This is a picture of a couple of Fighting Tomahawk designs I am doing for the Sayoc Tactical Group. Coop showed them with his pictures from the New York Show so I thought I would explain how they came about.

For the past few years, as many of you know, I have been making Combat/Breaching belt axes for both the US Naval Special Warfare and US Army Special Operations. I even have a program that allows interested individuals the opportunity to provide an axe for one of these Special Operations Operators.

The Sayoc Tactical Group is an organization that has been involved with teaching tomahawk and edged weapons combatives to the Naval Special Warfare Operators. I was introduced to the Sayoc Group by some of the Operators that have axes I made. Sayoc was interested in developing a couple of axe designs and provided me with ideas and drawings for what they wanted produced. The picture shows the 2 most recent prototypes that were approved by Sayoc with a slight change to the lower handgrip. Both designs will be available from Sayoc and will be made by me.

The steel is ¼” S - 7 and will have a full tapered tang. Available handle materials will be Re-cycled Rubber, Maple and an up-graded version with high grade Curly Maple with Tribal symbols. The carrier is felt lined Kydex with an adjustable locking belt clip.

For more information you can send me an email: daniel@winklerknives.com

Daniel Winkler
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Great looking designs, Daniel

The rubber handled one is a serious looking tool.

Full tappered tang, that has to be fun.

Take care
Charles
 
I like that rubber handled one! I hope theyll be reasonably priced I may pick one up!
-Barry-
 
Mr. Winkler, lovely purpose driven tools (although I'd say that the maple one is almost too pretty to get errrrrr "dirty") this is an awesome program you're participating in and I'm sure most appreciated by the end users.

Are you getting any feedback, ie. lessons learned or after action reports?

Is that horse stall mat on the rubber handled axe?
 
Those are definitely cool and formidable looking.

I do have a question about their use. It looks like they are made to strike with either end of the head. With the offset in the handle, it looks as, if using the round pointed end, the offset section of the handle would be in the way?

Peter
 
I think they look terrific - the wood-handled version in particular appeals to me.

Roger
 
those are incredible, very nice work my friend.

I'm glad to know those are out there in the field...
 
Thank you for all the comments about these axes. It has been a real learning experience working with guys that use tools like this. Rafael Kayanan from Sayoc did most of the design work based on his interaction with Special Forces Operators. That along with the work I have been doing and my experience making Tomahawks and working hatchets really came together in making this project a reality. Very soon there will be an order page on the Sayoc web site offering the hawks. Production will be somewhat limited and prices will probably be around $575 to $725 depending on features and handle material ordered. I’ll do post when they are available for order.

Every aspect of the design of these Hawks have been developed based on direct feedback from the actual users. Weight, balance, grips, materials, size, the curve of the blade and the spike and other details has been taken into consideration. From all that I have seen these axe designs are the most thoroughly researched designs available for close quarter axe combat. No detail was left unattended because of cost or difficulty to produce.

This is some of what Rafael had to say about the designs:

Mainly the hawk is designed for users who are master shooters. They have logged thousands of hours in their muscle memory to be quick, super accurate and have developed tactics that fit with it seamlessly. So the ergonomics and shape of the hawk and handle is designed for them. As you know, much of what I added and changed from the traditional hawks is due to their needs and constant feedback. The R&D hawks are just as effective held high under the head or at the regular grip points. I can honestly say that the hawk could not have reached this state of design without the generous input of numerous individuals who due to their line of work will never get the public recognition for their service that they deserve. Thus, it also answers why this hawk does not have a
"kali" name attached to it. Because its been a group effort for a common cause.

These axe designs are brand-new and the first time they were shown was at the recent New York Custom Knife Show, then here. I have close to 200 belt axes in the field now with Special Forces Operators. Rafael has been involved with training these guys a long time and has logged many hours researching their needs. I can’t tell you how pleased I am to have this opportunity to work with Rafael and Sayoc on this project. We are making these axes available to our Military and the public because having public support and involvement is very important and these guys out there in harms way need all the support we can give them.

Daniel
 
Thanks Daniel - please do let us know when ordering info is available.

Roger
 
Daniel,

I like both designs. I'm sure the rubber handle is great for a user.

RE:
For the past few years, as many of you know, I have been making Combat/Breaching belt axes for both the US Naval Special Warfare and US Army Special Operations. I even have a program that allows interested individuals the opportunity to provide an axe for one of these Special Operations Operators.
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I want to thank you for supporting the people who actually get to use these hawks. I think that this program is a great idea.

Jim Treacy
 
Yes, Daniel, please post when any one of these types can be ordered. I have never owned a hawk but I want one of these.
 
Yup. I found them to be incredibly solid in the hand and well-made. I loved the super grip of the 'horse mat' material.

For the photo only, I had to change something that is also really cool. His elastic has a really quick on & off feature: Behind the sheath is a another knot. You pull the end of the elastic around the bottom, up and over the back, and the middle knot (unseen above) captures into the little channel, leaving a 4" dangling end with the knot to grab. (This dangle didn't photograph well, sticking up, so I slipped it under the loop. Not the way it's designed.)

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In this unfinished composite view, I also slipped the end underneath, but the 'hidden' knot is now shown and working.

Great job, Daniel!

Coop
 
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