New folding saw - Silky Bigboy

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Apologies for going off topic but I thought you guys be be interested in this.

My darling daughter gave me a Silky folding saw for Solstice. It's a pretty amazing tool. Along with Tajima saws, Silky makes top-of-the-line folding saws. And Silky makes larger saws than Tajima.

This new one is a 14" folder. It's quite large - the largest that will stay in a Carhart side pocket. I truly wished for a 12" model but they were out of stock when this one was purchased.

For the past several years I've carried a Tajima 10" folder on many of my day hikes and most of my trail projects and habitat restoration projects. The Tajima G240 is a powerful little saw. It cuts way bigger than it looks. Yet it's still limited by its 10" length. Hence my desire for one of the larger Silky saws.

Here's the 14" Silky saw alongside a 33" Plumb axe for scale.

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I took this saw out on a WTA (Washington Trails Association) work party today. I needed to see how it would perform. To run it through its paces I used it to cut off a 15" blow-down maple stump. 15" stumps aren't what one normally considers appropriate for a folding saw. But after my experience with the Tajima and seeing how very similar the Silky construction is I felt confident that the Silky could handle a 15" maple.

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Thankfully I had a sharp Pulaski along with me to aid the saw. If you haven't used a modern Japanese pull saw lately than you've missed out on a true modern marvel. These saws are cutting machines. Thin kerfs and very aggressive teeth.

The Silky was advertised as having 8.5 teeth per inch. My old Tajima has 9 tpi. I prefer a little finer teeth on my folding saws because they handle small branches better and also handle very hard woods better.

Checking the Silky's teeth with a tape measure I found that it actually has 9 tpi. But the teeth are a little deeper than the 9 tpi Tajima saw's. The difference was noticeable in the Silky's difficulty at cutting smaller branches. But on the larger stuff the Silky ROCKS!!!

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I made it through this 15" maple in less than 10 minutes. That's very quick for a folding saw.

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It made a pretty clean cut, maybe not as clean as a good crosscut saw but impressive for a folder.

Now I'm torn between the 10" Tajima and the 14" Silky. Most of my work can be down with the 10" Tajima and it carries easier. But the Silky can handle much larger work. I really wish I had found a 12" Silky with fine teeth. They used to make an 11 tpi model. I think a 12" with the fine teeth would have been the best compromise.

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The build of Silky and Tajima saws is so similar that I suspect they're made in the same factory. I have found nothing online to collaborate this idea. But the design is virtually identical. The 10" Silky looks just like my 10" Tajima. I'm sure the blades are interchangeable. Whichever brand you choose I'll think you will immediately recognize that you're using a very fine tool.
 
Great Pegs thanks :(
I've been thinking about looking into getting one of those Silkys and now you go and post this ;)
I've heard nothing but great thinks about those little saws. They look like they could come in mighty handy.

Thanks for the report :)
 
Just get one, Bear. You'll thank me.

Yeah those Japanese saws are crazy. I picked up one of those Dozuki saws awhile back at my favorite pawnshop.
It was brand new in the package, unopened. I got it for 15 bucks :eek:
Heck, they sell for between 50-60 bucks.
I've been meaning to post some pics of it in the 'It followed me home' thread.
It now lives on my work bench. It's great for hafting work.
 
Looks like they're great tools for trailwork. For other uses where "packability" isn't such an issue, I think I'd prefer a bowsaw (and their less costly blades).

... I really wish I had found a 12" Silky with fine teeth. They used to make an 11 tpi model. I think a 12" with the fine teeth would have been the best compromise...

You can get replacement 14" blades with 11 tpi at silkysaws.com
 
Pegs, I've been trying to resist that big silky for about a year now. You're not helping! Me want!

That thing is awesome! Thanks for the pics!
 
Looks like they're great tools for trailwork. For other uses where "packability" isn't such an issue, I think I'd prefer a bowsaw (and their less costly blades).

The trouble with a bow saw is that the frame limits the size of log you can cut. How large of bow saw do you need to cut a 15" trunk? Even if you try cutting all around it with a bow saw you might still run into trouble because you can't cut from below without interference from the ground. A frameless saw gets into places where a bow saw can't go.

Oh, and I've got my eye on those 11 tpi blades. I'm gonna try one.
 
Yeah that's exactly what I like about frameless saws--your only limit is the length of the blade, NOT the depth of the cut.
 
I have been looking for awhile to upgrade my pack saw. Thanks for the update.
I know that some maple is very hard while others are soft. What is that maple like?
 
That's Oregon big leaf maple. It's considered a moderately hard maple. The interior of that one was punky and soft. The dark center was quite soft. The white ring still had some hardness to it and the exterior was quite hard. The saw had no difficulty with it at all.
 
That's some nice cutting.
I carry an 8" (210 mm) silky saw in my pack.
After a point in log size sawing beats chopping by a long ways.
 
The trouble with a bow saw is that the frame limits the size of log you can cut. How large of bow saw do you need to cut a 15" trunk? Even if you try cutting all around it with a bow saw you might still run into trouble because you can't cut from below without interference from the ground. A frameless saw gets into places where a bow saw can't go...

Indeed, they are very attractive for these reasons. (My 13" Felco saw gets used where a bow saw would be blocked.) And those Silky's look ideal for remote trailwork.

I just wouldn't use them (and put wear on those expensive blades) for cutting jobs where a bow saw can be used (and is reasonably at hand).
 
You're right about that, Steve. The blades are expensive. You want to make sure you peel any suspect log before applying your blade to it.
 
I took this saw out on the trail again today. I came upon a fresh storm-fall alder - still green. Cutting at a normal pace it took 45 seconds to cut a 7" trunk. A racing axe could beat that time but I seldom find myself on the trail with a racing axe in my pocket.
 
i dont have much to say,
I am a proffesional Arborist in winnipeg and Silky saws are all we use.
They are the best of the best.
They are the #1 selling handsaws in the world
 
Thanks for the review. Sorry to bump this thread up. I would love to know how a quality no-folding japanese saw would perform. I have heard they are, much like their top knives, the best in the world.
 
I've used a Silky saw for years. I usually pair a 10-inch Silky with my Busse Bushwhacker. I can carry both in the same sheath.

But recently I got the Silky Katanaboy, which has a monster 21 inch blade. It's a folder, but when it's extended, the whole saw is 46 inches long. It just flies through small logs, setting things up for splitting with a hatchet or axe. And it's easy and light to carry in a pack.
 
I'm not wild about the Katanaboy. I love the reach it has and the ability to cut large trees with a compact saw. But when you make a saw that long and thing it becomes easy to kink. You have to be careful with it. Our trail group has several of them. New volunteers will readily damage the blade. But if you're careful it's a powerful tool.
 
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