New ( for me) 317 information

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I am sure the 300 experts probably already know this but I will show pics for us layman. I did not realize that Buck had 317 customs coming out of their factory (or the Camillus factory). The only customs I were aware of were the custom shop jobs Leroy and those guys did on broken bladed knives. They turned them into 1 bladed 317s per Leroy. So here is a 317 stag with a Buck box marked as a 317 stag. The knife also has n/s pins. Don't have any idea if a lot were made or sold. Thats my story and I am sticking to it!







 
Very rare, bet it cost more than ten dollars....If you search 317s here on the forum, you can find threads with lots of different blade etches. Special scales were usually old custom shop done. Thats why you have a sticker on your box. Several photos of 317s rescaled by owners or custom jobs by others. I keep telling folks, use the search function, use the search function. But it does take some looking at a lot of rocks before you find the diamonds.

300Bucks


Here is a aftermarket custom by ANZA knife in AZ.


Here's my stag from the old custom shop, as are others.
 
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I keep telling folks, use the search function, use the search function. But it does take some looking at a lot of rocks before you find the diamonds.

300Bucks,

Two comments...

1) Forum search is much easier if you remember the thread and much harder if you weren't there. People who were involved know the approximate times, who was involved and the key words that were in common use at the time. Newbies lack this context and lacking it, have a much harder time knowing if they are getting warmer and or colder as they sort through search results. Add to this that Google's "site:" feature is generally much better than any PHP search tool.

2) "All topics are cyclic." -Eugene Miya.

Eugene was a researcher at NASA Ames who was involved in starting many groups in the old usenet rec.* hierarchy. He's credited for coining the phrase FAQ, which bears on this comment. Cyclic topics keep the air moving. It's more of a problem in very high bandwidth forums and less of an issue in low bandwidth forums. IMO (formed very much from my usenet days and long talks with Gene on the topic) is that the only things that appeals to use search functions and to avoid cyclic topics do is to discourage newbies from posting. If forum old-timers want to be really serious about making information available to newbies to reduce the frequency of certain topics (all topics are cyclic, they only differ in periodicity), then they should collaborate on creating good static content. This was the original goal of usenet FAQs or, in Gene's preferred terminology, Distilled Wisdom posts.

All of this to say, if people in the Buck forum feel really strongly about not fielding cyclic questions (again, all topics are cyclic) such as questions about specific Buck models, I think a much healthier approach is to post up well curated stickies. Of course, well written and helpful stickies take real work that busy people may not have.

Not leveling this to you 300Bucks, but in general, when I hear old timers in a forum (any forum, not just this one) tell newbies to RTFM (aka, use the search tool), I roughly translate this into, "I've gone beyond the point of getting any fun out of educating newbies and would really just prefer to talk with the handful of people I consider to be peer and I don't have the time or interest to write good static content nor the interest to stand up my own private mailing list, so I'll just camp out in this quasi-public forum and do my best to chase away any clueless newbies so the forum can be used only by those I consider to be in the cool kids club."

Please note, I've written a couple of static web site on hobby topics I feel passionate about. I use them to answer question in forums related to those topics. It's not that hard, so I'm less impressed by self-appointed old timers who can't do the same. Unless/until people post static content (ie stickies), I think the best thing for the forums is to embrace cyclic questions by newbies.
 
Nice stag gsea, a very nice knife! You have some fine ones too 300Bucks - always enjoy the photos here. OH
 
If we keep posting stickies, the whole first page will be nothing but stickies and guys still won't be using the search feature. Reading is what I have to do. DM
 
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Thanks 300. Just so you know I bet I have searched the 317 with the search function more than anyone here. There are some threads with pics of the early and late productions, specials like the serrated, smkw editions etc. most of them posted by you. Some discussion on dates etc. but nothing about Buck customs and very little about after market customs again mostly posted by you. So you can see I did do my homework before I posted. I do love the 317 stag you posted great color variation. After thought... first 317 customs I've seen with the scale pins (I know the "salesman" 317 had them).

Very rare, bet it cost more than ten dollars....If you search 317s here on the forum, you can find threads with lots of different blade etches. Special scales were usually old custom shop done. Thats why you have a sticker on your box. Several photos of 317s rescaled by owners or custom jobs by others. I keep telling folks, use the search function, use the search function. But it does take some looking at a lot of rocks before you find the diamonds.

300Bucks
 
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