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marcinek

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Hi!...New to this Forum, been doing some reading, and have found it all very informative and soothing, somehow. Lot calmer that some of the other neighborhoods on BFC. Hope you don't mind if I hang around for a spell.

Anyway, my question. I am about to get my first Case (and first slipjoint). An Amber Bone Medium Stockman. Is there any reason NOT to go with the CV version?

The extra care involved with CV doesn't concern me, I might even go the patina route. The prices are the same. Reading prior threads, there seems to be nothing but universal praise for the Case CV, and occasional very mild objections to Case SS.

So is ease-of-care the main Tru-Sharp advantage?

Thanks in adavance, and again, thanks for having a spot where I can focus my new-found knife obsession on tools that don't scream tactical so much. Think I'll get my Case and go find a stick to whittle. Ahhhhh...
 
I prefer the CV versions and am disappointed that there aren't more patterns (and scale materials) offered in CV.

I'm sure the stainless is fine, I just prefer carbon steel in my slippies. Makes 'em feel like the way they were back in the day.

The extra care is minimal and is really something that most of us knife enthusiasts enjoy anyway.

Enjoy your time here. It's a good, relaxing, friendly forum. But you better keep an eye on your wallet!
 
Welcome! Life's much better here. :) (Pardon the melodrama; I've just come from another foray into the moronic world of gun forums.)

I don't think there's a downside to CV. I never leave any of my knives in a condition such that they'd actually rust. I suppose if I were a saltwater fisherman, or something along those lines, I'd be a bit more concerned.

Someone recently pointed out that while SS doesn't rust (as easily), it does scratch. So years down the road you have a nice, shiny, scratched up knife. At least with carbon/CV the steel "ages" and develops a character.

But yes, I'd say ease of care is about the only "advantage" to SS. That said, Tru-Sharp ain't bad. It'll get you through the day's cutting tasks. I've got a Mini Copperlock with Wharncliff in Tru-Sharp in my pocket as I type this.

-- Sam
 
marcinek said:
...have found it all very informative and soothing, somehow. Lot calmer that some of the other neighborhoods on BFC. ...
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I could't have said it better. I feel the same way.
I have a small Case Texas Jack in bone and CV. I like it!:D
 
Welcome to what, in my experience, may be the friendliest forum on the net...life just seems more laid back and easier when it's traditional.

With that said, I'm gonna have to agree with the other replys. I can't think of a single downside to Case CV, one of my favorite edc's is a Case trapper in CV. That said, I really don't think their Tru-Sharp is as bad as some make it out to be. I prefer CV for my Case's, but my Case russlock in Tru-Sharp gets me through the day just fine too, as a matter of fact, it's what I'm carrying today.
 
ahhhh....

Thanks everyone!! Case Amber Bone Medium Stockman in CV it is!!

The lack of violent debate over CV vs. SS is also soothing. Friendly discussion. No "CV rules!! Tru-Sharp, you, and your mother suck!!!" stuff going on. Nice. I feel much calmer.

I am about to make the first "traditional knife" dent in my wallet right now. I'm off to get one of those leather key cases so my keys don't scratch up my new poketknife when I get it.
 
marcinek said:
ahhhh....

Thanks everyone!! Case Amber Bone Medium Stockman in CV it is!!

The lack of violent debate over CV vs. SS is also soothing. Friendly discussion. No "CV rules!! Tru-Sharp, you, and your mother suck!!!" stuff going on. Nice. I feel much calmer.

I am about to make the first "traditional knife" dent in my wallet right now. I'm off to get one of those leather key cases so my keys don't scratch up my new poketknife when I get it.
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No, there's no violent debates over issues here. I've found this to be one of the most laid back forums I have ever encounterd, and its almost like an extended family with some of us being a bit more exentric but still a member of the family.

True sharp vs CV?

I'll tell ya what. I have a couple of the Case peanuts, and one is a SS with bone stag. I bought it because I like a small handy pocket knife, and I love my yellow CV peanut, and this bone stag was just so pretty a knife I just could'nt pass it by.

Does CV out cut true sharp?

It does, but you have to go to such a ridiculous length to prove it, that its impossable to tell in real world edc. Yes, I sat down one day to test both my peanuts, and by the time it was done I had shreds of hemp rope, newsprint, and slices of corragated cardboard ankle deep on the floor, my right hand was sore for two days, and my family thought I was round the bend. The only thing I proved was that a CV peanut will slice 134 fourteen inch strips from cardboard and 78 slices of hemp, while a True Sharp will only make 123 fourteen inch cardboard strips and 71 slices of hemp before a noticable difference appears that the True Sharp will not slice newsprint as clean as CV.

What I learned most from all that, was next time I set out to spend the next couple hours slicing cardboard and hemp, I was going to use a Stanly utility knife!

Either steel will get you thrugth the day just fine. My ss peanut is my Sunday knife, and in nice weather we will have an old fashioned box lunch after service. Manys the time my True Sharp peanut has taken up the fight against a salami, a vicious hard pepperoni, numerous dinner rolls sliced open to make a small sandwich, not to mention open boxes, packages, cut string, and a zillion other pocket knife chores.

In the end it will come down to just what you preffer in a pocket knife. Either will get you by just fine.

Unless you want to spend an afternoon slicing cardboard and hemp rope.:)
 
Welcome from here too. Good folks here.

One advantage to buying the CV is it is one more vote in dollars to Case to let them know people still want knives in CV!

Get what you like and will enjoy using. I'm more about the knife an how it works for me as long as the steel does what I want it to. I have Case knives in CV and Tru-Sharp. My current carry is a smooth boned mini-trapper in Tru-Sharp. It just has the combination of walk, talk, and half-stops, the look and feel I like, and it cuts like a dream and holds an edge pretty well. Another favorite carry was my little yellow handled, peanut in CV. It also fit the bill quite well.

One thing different around here is a lot of these fellows are real users of knives. While we all love and appreciate high end and custom knives, you will see time and again threads where people sing the praises of lowly little working knives like the peanut, sodbuster, opinel, and others. Unlike some of those fellows who can't take a shower without the latest tech-tactical hanging in there with them, or can't go a hundred feet off the pavement without a 50lb personal survival kit and 12 cutting tools of some kind, the folks on here have learned a bit about their knife using from older experienced woodsmen and from their own personal experience actually using the things. Tends to cut down on all the macho swaggering and arm chair Armageddon antics.

Oh yeah, don't forget to show us a pic when you get that Stockman. ;)
 
This forum is an excellent learning centre.

People put their views and share experiences and nobody talks down to you for being different,this for me has been a very pleasant surprise:thumbup:

Experience is invaluable and should be shared as you never need to stop learning

But watch out in the Whine&Cheese it's the place to flay everyone else :D
 
Thanks willgoy, I've been hanging around other places on BF for a couple months, including Whine and Cheese. W+C is what it is (and is amusing).

What has grown a bit tiresome is, in some other places is, as Amos puts it,

all the macho swaggering and arm chair Armageddon antics
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which admittedly, started to affect what knives I wanted to own. About a week ago, I got my AG Russell Woodswalker. And it hit me that it, along with my SAK are all the knives I realistically will ever need. And it also hit me that when I got into the whole knife thing about a year ago, it was because I wanted a pocketknife. Never had one as a kid.

Anyway, being middle aged, I think I can and should buy one, dadgummit.

The whole tactical thing got me off track. Made me nuts.

Wow. That all sounds very 12-step-ish. Sorry.

Just glad to be here and relaxing with you nice folks. Oh, and a "Sunday-go-to-meeting knife" is pure poetry.
 
marcinek said:
.. I am about to make the first "traditional knife" dent in my wallet right now. I'm off to get one of those leather key cases so my keys don't scratch up my new poketknife when I get it.
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Hey there,

First off: Welcome marcinec!. Glad you are here and I hope you find your stay very pleasant indeed.

Secondly: Or perhaps you may want to consider protecting your slippy with a leather buckaroo..
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Thanks, sunnyd! I like those buckaroos!

Where would I get one? (Especially since I was unsucessful in finding one of those key cases for under $40)
 
marcinek said:
Thanks, sunnyd! I like those buckaroos!

Where would I get one? (Especially since I was unsucessful in finding one of those key cases for under $40)
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These are very inexpensive. My friend Ron at www.cuttersandcollectors.com makes two types.. One for under 30. and one for under 20.(as shown) if memory serves.. The thing I like about these little bad boys is that it not only protects your pocketknives from grime and grit but from against loss as well. Extremely versatile too.. You can hang these from a belt and then drop them into your favorite pocket.. Or perhaps a vest/shirt button like a watch chain.. Or like my daughter does from a purse stud and into a purse pouch.. Or ext, ext..
 
The biggest advantage of Case SS over CV is a much larger selection of patterns, handle materials, and colors. All my Case knives are yellow handled CV but I'm looking to pick up some more colorful Case knives and have certainly not ruled out SS blades.
 
I don't have a lot of experience with Case Knives as they are not common in this part of the world but have I five of them at the moment: a yellow handled trapper in CV, bone handled Copperlock in SS, bone handled (stag look alike) 3 bladed stockman in SS, a camp/scout type knife with mini pliers in SS and a Mako lockback in SS. (I am not sure of the correct model names of all Case knives).

The copperlock is a bit off the mark for me. Nice looking knife but thin and light duty and I wonder why it needs a lock, but I suppose the lock does no harm. The Mako was the only one that lead me to question the quality of Case Knives. It was so tightly fitted as to be unuseable - a herculean effort required to open the blade and even more to unlock it to close. With a lot of work it now operates the way I like it and I have become quite partial to it.

The only ones that have seen any substantial use are the SS Stockman and the CV trapper. To be honest I can't really pick the difference in performance. They both carry well in the pocket, both are easy to sharpen to razor edge and cut well enough for the relatively modest things I do with them.

Maybe if you skinned game all day or did something that needs superior edge holding the difference may be more apparent. I have not found the maintenance of the CV blade to be an issue but this could vary for different usage requirements.
 
Warriorsociologist said:
Sir, please tell me (in a PM, if necessary) about that trapper. Very nice!!!
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OFF TOPIC: just for a moment per Warriorsociologist's request..

.. It is a very nice trapper indeed made by Bob Cargill at Cripple Creek knives back in the 1980's with half stops and the best matched gnarly stag I have on any pocketknife. If you like, I can post a few pics in a thread showing some detail??.. Let me know??
 
Amos Iron Wolf said:
While we all love and appreciate high end and custom knives, you will see time and again threads where people sing the praises of lowly little working knives like the peanut, sodbuster, opinel, and others.
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Not all of us. To be honest, high-end and custom show piece knives bore me. Always have. I find some old bone handled slippie, pocketworn after years and years of carry, steel black from use, and blades worn back a good bit from repeated sharpening to be a real piece of art.
 
mnblade said:
Not all of us. To be honest, high-end and custom show piece knives bore me. Always have. I find some old bone handled slippie, pocketworn after years and years of carry, steel black from use, and blades worn back a good bit from repeated sharpening to be a real piece of art.
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Now there's a sentiment I can agree whole heartedly with!:thumbup:
 
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