I hate to bring it up, but Taylor, the owner of the Schrade name, is importing 171 Uh knives from China, which may not have tang stamps. I don't know for sure. I heard a rumor once that some of his knives early on had paper stickers on them which said China, that you could just scratch off, and no stamp anywhere on the knife. Others have a china stamp that is very very small. I have three that are the real deal, one with the bird's head pommel, and another witha serial # under 300. I am considering parting with many of my Schrade fixed blade knives if the market comes back. I think Schrade prices have fallen off this year because of the market. I also notice that a lot of the nicer stuff is spread a lot thinner than it was even a year ago.