New (HAPPY!!!!!!!) Wicked Edge owner

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TimWilson

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Got my wicked edge yesterday.

Haven't had a LOT of time to play with it, but compared to the EdgePro Apex I tried (and sold within 3 days!), this thing is the cats' meow!

Did a couple cheap gerbers and then dove in on my XM-18. The only "learning curve" is to be able to alternate sides stroke-by-stroke, and even that is not completely necessary.

Absolutely even edges, no "wobble" (and corresponding F@#$ed up area) to the blade if not held EXACTLY the same from second-to-second.

The ONLY thing the Apex kit I had that was "better" was that it came with the 1000 grit stone. The 600 grit diamond makes a damn sharp edge, but I really feel that I need the next couple of stones grits to get a good polish on the edge. Don't know if I feel the need for a mirror edge so I may not invest in the strops.

Quick and dirty summary: WEPS Rules and EdgePro drools!:thumbup::D:thumbup::D:thumbup::D



OH YEAH: Did I mention: NO BLADE SCRATCHING!!!! Hot DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!



Tim
 
No doubt the wicked edge is a great system, but I like my edge pro. Scratching has been a problem for me, I keep the table clean.


I'll probably end up with the WE sometime though. Have fun spending $60 for the set of fine stones. :thumbdn:
 
TimWilson said:
Quick and dirty summary: WEPS Rules and EdgePro drools!:thumbup::D:thumbup::D:thumbup::D



OH YEAH: Did I mention: NO BLADE SCRATCHING!!!! Hot DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!



Tim
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All opinions, blade scratching is a problem if you don't follow the proper procedure.
 
That's funny..I find it simple to obtain perfectly even bevels without any scratches using my Edge Pro. Glad you're happy with your investment though- now let's see those mirror edges!
 
OK I have been watching the dueling match between Edge Pro Folks and Wicked Edge. Upon looking at both systems myself and going back and forth I still haven't made up my mind yet. This thread does help. The person that got the Wicked Edge has had both systems and can make comment on both.
The scratch issue may be user error but there have been threads where so called Professionals have scratched a knife and said that it does happen and it does or Edge Pro users wouldnt kick and scream about it when that is used against the unit. Is it user error.... maybe... probably... but I dont want to do that if i am having a bad night and mess up a knife whether it is mine or someone elses.

Initially you may have to spend more money up front on a Wicked Edge but to be fair I think that a look in the long term by folks using the system. For the Edge Pro you get a lot up front... but you have to flatten your stones and need a kit for that and need replacement tapes. The cost may even out in the long run.

And why rain on the OPs parade.... he's happy with the system. I am sure there will be folks that will put their Wicked Edge System up for sale because they like the Edge Pro for one reason or another. I just wish people would not take it as a personal afront to their choice. All I know is I cant wait to make my decision one way or the other
 
xmtgx said:
All opinions, blade scratching is a problem if you don't follow the proper procedure.
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Not opinion, FACT.

Only way I can see not to scratch with EP is to wipe the table between every stroke.

FACT: if the blade can't move, it can't get scratched.

Crimsontide: that's only $15 per stone, not to bad.
 
How can you tell us not to take it personally and rain on his parade when he say "wicked edge rules edge pro drools" or whatever he said.

He didn't come out and say he loved his wicked edge and nothing more. He said be loved his wicked edge and that edge pro sucks. He opened himself up to negative comments just based on that alone.

Maybe you need to re-read the OPs post.






striker071 said:
OK I have been watching the dueling match between Edge Pro Folks and Wicked Edge. Upon looking at both systems myself and going back and forth I still haven't made up my mind yet. This thread does help. The person that got the Wicked Edge has had both systems and can make comment on both.
The scratch issue may be user error but there have been threads where so called Professionals have scratched a knife and said that it does happen and it does or Edge Pro users wouldnt kick and scream about it when that is used against the unit. Is it user error.... maybe... probably... but I dont want to do that if i am having a bad night and mess up a knife whether it is mine or someone elses.

Initially you may have to spend more money up front on a Wicked Edge but to be fair I think that a look in the long term by folks using the system. For the Edge Pro you get a lot up front... but you have to flatten your stones and need a kit for that and need replacement tapes. The cost may even out in the long run.

And why rain on the OPs parade.... he's happy with the system. I am sure there will be folks that will put their Wicked Edge System up for sale because they like the Edge Pro for one reason or another. I just wish people would not take it as a personal afront to their choice. All I know is I cant wait to make my decision one way or the other
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You are still taking it like you own the blasted company for Edge Pro. My goodness... maybe you should reread my post.

if the OP said jumping off a bridge is cool and there is nothing better and using a plane sucks.... would you really take it to heart yourself if you were a avid skydiver... no you'd say cool you think that is better but i will stick to planes.

No one has been overly excited about something they think is cool... yeah he feels that way and yeah he made the comment.... I just dont get the hostility when you have no vested interest in either product.
 
striker071 said:
You are still taking it like you own the blasted company for Edge Pro. My goodness... maybe you should reread my post.

if the OP said jumping off a bridge is cool and there is nothing better and using a plane sucks.... would you really take it to heart yourself if you were a avid skydiver... no you'd say cool you think that is better but i will stick to planes.

No one has been overly excited about something they think is cool... yeah he feels that way and yeah he made the comment.... I just dont get the hostility when you have no vested interest in either product.
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Your example is both difficult to relate to and lacking in application to this discussion. I don't see why a preference for how one parachutes from point A to point B has any meaning here- perhaps you have too many browser windows open and now some skydiving forum is wondering why a post about knife sharpeners suddenly popped into existence.

We're talking about about two sophisticated, pricey, and competitive machines capable of sharpening the finest cutlery. Why are we jumping on TimWilson's comment? Partly because it's nothing more than an inflammatory opinion, but mostly because there are countless others reading these threads ready to put their money down on one of these systems. Since neither system "sucks" I am all too happy to join in to keep the balance neutral.

I'm not saying this is about good versus evil or light versus dark; it's more of "mauve versus pale violet" kind of thing.
 
I'm glad you're happy with your WE. I am a satisfied EP user but I don't close the door on one day getting a WE.
 
Well, I haven't touched my EP for a good year or so, I guess that says I can go through my days just fine without it.
 
striker071 said:
OK I have been watching the dueling match between Edge Pro Folks and Wicked Edge. Upon looking at both systems myself and going back and forth I still haven't made up my mind yet. This thread does help. The person that got the Wicked Edge has had both systems and can make comment on both.
The scratch issue may be user error but there have been threads where so called Professionals have scratched a knife and said that it does happen and it does or Edge Pro users wouldnt kick and scream about it when that is used against the unit. Is it user error.... maybe... probably... but I dont want to do that if i am having a bad night and mess up a knife whether it is mine or someone elses.

Initially you may have to spend more money up front on a Wicked Edge but to be fair I think that a look in the long term by folks using the system. For the Edge Pro you get a lot up front... but you have to flatten your stones and need a kit for that and need replacement tapes. The cost may even out in the long run.

And why rain on the OPs parade.... he's happy with the system. I am sure there will be folks that will put their Wicked Edge System up for sale because they like the Edge Pro for one reason or another. I just wish people would not take it as a personal afront to their choice. All I know is I cant wait to make my decision one way or the other
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Yes the blade can get scratched if one uses a lot of water and lets the slurry build up. That only happens when doing extensive reprofiling though and if one uses a lot of water.

Normal sharpening using less water there shouldn't really be a problem, that's why I keep my stones in water so I just dab off most of the water and wipe the table and blade down before switching sides.
 
Ankerson

I have watched your videos on re-profiling a knife and I have to say it is impressive.

OK I used skydiving.... it could have been a hundred other things to make the point. I guess the three thumbs up and the three big smiley faces the OP put in his initial post didn't have the desired chuckle factor. So I now have the cross hair on my forehead....amazing. Posting "Balance Neutral" but again attacking others you don't agree with which is sad. I am looking at both systems. I have read the recent threads about WE vs EP. I am not going out and buying the WE on this one recommendation and I don't think anyone else should either. But it is a positive post towards the Wicked Edge by the OP and upon doing checks and balances it may help a person lean one way or the other.
 
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Ankerson said:
Yes the blade can get scratched if one uses a lot of water and lets the slurry build up. That only happens when doing extensive reprofiling though and if one uses a lot of water.
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Not even. I use a LOT of water with my EdgePro, and don't have any problems with scratching. But he's happy with his WE, and that's good. He doesn't mind the fact that he is forced to use only WE stones, at high prices. He's happy with it, and that's what counts. While each stone only cost's $15, you can't just buy one at a time... But he's happy with it.

You're happy with your EdgePro. I'm happy with my EdgePro. We've both been using them for a long time. I know that the majority of my stones and strops are of my own design and for different situations give me the edges I require. I need to know that if I require a 1/2" wide stone for sharpening a really snakey Kris I can use it on my EdgePro. I just hope the WE folks only sharpen relatively straight edged blades. That way they can remain happy. :)

Stitchawl
 
I really only use my Edge pro to reprofile edges and I bought it used with no video. I just started using it and I have never had a problem with scratches on the blade and don't do anything to try and prevent it. I didn't even know that was a possible issue and have only read about it in the last week or so.

I wouldn't think a good impression of either system can be developed with just a few attempts using them as all systems have a learning curve.
 
I just hope the WE folks only sharpen relatively straight edged blades. That way they can remain happy.
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Actually, there is a convex set of stones for curved blades. Work reeeaal good! Not cheap though, naturally.
 
As the instructions for the EdgePro state...make sure to tape the table so you do not scratch your blade. Better yet, tape your table and your blade if you want to be extra sure of no scratches. Regardless, I am ready to see some of those mirror edges from the WE, gogo!
 
Bapple said:
As the instructions for the EdgePro state...make sure to tape the table so you do not scratch your blade. Better yet, tape your table and your blade if you want to be extra sure of no scratches. Regardless, I am ready to see some of those mirror edges from the WE, gogo!
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Exactly :D. It's becoming more widespread as time goes on, more seem to be arriving every day for members of this forum. Show us some WE mirror bevels please :D
 
striker071 said:
...I guess the three thumbs up and the three big smiley faces the OP put in his initial post didn't have the desired chuckle factor. ...
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Probably shouldn't have made that comment even with the smilies. :foot: It's too damn hard to decipher intent sometimes. The few I tried on the edge pro DID all end up sharper than they'd ever been.



So far, I've found that if I need to repair an edge (and ALL our kitchen knives have been beat to hell!) that it is easiest to do only one side with the 100 grit til I get a burr and then do the other side. After that, as long as I go at a deliberate, steady pace I can do the two handed bit OK.

Set up is a piece of cake, nothing to it. Just sharpie the edge and adjust as required and then go to town on it.

I did just order a set of the superfine ceramic stones, as the 600 grit while very sharp just isn't smooth enough for my tastes. I skipped ordering the 800 and 1000 grit diamond stones for the time being. I may try a set of strops if I feel the need for a truly polished edge, but the ceramics are 1200 and 1600 grit and when I tried the edge pro, the 1000 grit was darn near a mirror.

So far, I've done knives ranging from a 2 1/2" gerber EVO, all the way up through a 12" butcher knife, about 8 in all. They are all sharper than they've ever been, and aside from the couple I tried on the edge pro, no scratches (at least that weren't there before!)


So far I've just used a couple spring clamps to hold it to the edge of my workbench, but I've just about got a wooden base finished. Just waiting for the finish to dry so I can sand it down and put one a second coat. I've got an old inner tube that I think I'll cut a couple strips off of and glue them to the bottom to keep it from sliding around.

Thats about enough of my ramblings for now.

Tim
 
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