New Instigator & BM vs Spyderco Torture test..

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meshmdz

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just got my Benchmade Instigator in the mail today. picked it up at our shop.. this is the 2nd benchmade i have...

i am in the process of seeing if i can attain a spyderco knife to use in a torture test.. my boss and owner says that the benchmade presidio will out last the spyderco manix, so i am trying to get ahold of a new one so i can hopefully beat him with the spyder. he got a new presidio from BM today and said i am ready when you are... he is testing me... if he were a spyderco dealer then we would already have this one underway or done... but we dont sell spyderco anymore for some reason.. he swears by BM and i am a spyderco man.. so i am trying to get one so i can convince him to become a spyderco dealer again and downsize our BM stock! we have hells of BM knives and like one spyder... very sad... anyone wanna donate?
 
Ahhh, man Spyderco Vs. Benchmade is like apples and oranges. Both are delicious, just depends on which you like more. For me it's Spyderco. I do like Benchmade knives, just not as much as Spyderco. You should try a Chinook or a Temperance if you can't find a Manix to destroy. You may be surprised. I prefer lockbacks to the axis lock myself. Good luck with your test.
 
Jeezes. If you had two children, would you want one to kill off the other just to prove they are the stronger one? Benchmade and Spyderco offer different products to suit different tastes and needs, and while both remain in competitive form, we users benefit.
 
allenC said:
Manix vs Presidio?!?

Wow, that is a tough fight.
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i didnt know if you were being serious or sarcastic...

i think my boss is going to get a used manix, almost brand new, and we are going to perform this test.. i am pretty sure the Manix will outlast the Presidio though i like both knives..

I have the Chinook II, bought it yesterday at NGK in VA. I love it!!! i can say this knife will be with me quite possibly forever, i cant ever see myself parting ways with it.. the manix was the blade i was wanting to test because the chinook has already proven to be a sack of hell when it comes to torture testing.... the manix is pretty much the same knife just different blade curvature, correct me if i am wrong... i compared the stats on spydercos website and they seem to be about the same knife... i hope i can prove the manix to be tougher... as of right now we have about 50 regulars that buy in our shop and they are wanting to see the test performed.. i think we are going to pick 4 different torturing methods to do on teh BM and Spyderco that we both (my boss and I can agree on) and administer the same torture to each knife. this is going to be fun and equally interesting... I will be sure to let you all know when we get this test underway/completed, as to what the outcomes are. thanks for the advice and thoughts fellas! God Bless!
 
yea, what the hell man?

how come we all have this inherent notion that we can't trust knife makers to put a quality, well-tested product in our pockets?

if you're going to compare BM vs. Spyderco, i believe you are going to find them to be two perfectly good knives from two perfectly good companies, and in the process you'll destroy two... perfectly good knives.

what educational purpose are you going to gain from that? if you want to make a difference, hows about donating that presidio and manix to a bladeforums passaround.

that's just my take on it. it's your money, your time, and your knives. wish the best of luck, and make sure to wear eye protection.
 
the BM is being donated to the owner who is a dealer of BM knives and the Manix is from a man who has like 14 of the same blade... so we arent going to be out.... i may take the manix home afterwards, because i am sure its going to win.
 
No offense, but I'm going to have a pretty hard time taking results from you without more than a few grains of salt, as you've already established quite an inclination toward Spyderco. You really are comparing apples and oranges here- an axis lock will, in all probability, wear more gracefully than a lockback without gaining blade play because most lockbacks get at least a little play after moderate usage, which is not always a bad thing. Sal himself has pointed out that this ensures that a little lint or something won't cause the lock to fail to engage/disengage. If you're testing edge retention/blade durability, you might have noticed that you're testing two different steels. Personally, I would use my knives normally and let the results of reasonable daily testing speak for itself, but it's your prerogative. Spyderco manufactures incredible knives while maintaining an outstanding level of customer service and quality control. Benchmade does that same. Benchmade tends, in general, to put a lot of focus on ergonomics and comfort as well as elegance, whereas Spyderco knives are usually pure cutting machines with really effective blade geometries, and they're usually slim and lightweight at the expense of some ergonomics.
 
i didnt know if you were being serious or sarcastic...
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I'm sorry if that came across wrong, I was being serious.
It is a tough choice between which would last the longest--they are both very stout knives.

Overall, I think the Presidio would fare better in the long run, mostly due to the Axis-lock and the aluminum handle.
 
my boss and store owner said he had some differnet tests he was wanting me to look over. i am not exactly sure of the types of tests as of yet men. my apologies..

the BM is 154cm and the manix is CPMS30V, i know... but he said he wanted to test the presidio up against ANY tough spyder... so i said ok.. the chinook, my carry piece, has already been tested, so i will try the manix.. so thats what we are doing.
 
meshmdz said:
my boss and store owner said he had some differnet tests he was wanting me to look over. i am not exactly sure of the types of tests as of yet men. my apologies..

the BM is 154cm and the manix is CPMS30V, i know... but he said he wanted to test the presidio up against ANY tough spyder... so i said ok.. the chinook, my carry piece, has already been tested, so i will try the manix.. so thats what we are doing.
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OK, whatever floats your boat. By the way, we aren't all men here. There ARE a few women here, and I happen to be one of them. Not offended or anything, just thought you might want to know.
 
just out of curiosity and correct me if Im wrong but the steel in the presidio (154cm) was originally used for jet turbines (and holds a beatiful edge on my griptillian and will shave after attacking a cardboard mailing tube repeatedly) and is a good strong steel.

but the blade steel in the manix is a powder based steel designed especially for knives and from what Ive heard (at least about s 30v) powdered blade steels have a tendency to chip from abuse but get about three times sharper than anything else.

so your torture tests might be thrown off by that a little. (if Im correct that is)
 
To me, it is like arguing over which will go faster: a Ferrari or a Lambourghini

Both are super nice and super fast, and you could never drive 200MPH anyway...
 
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