New Kami Mark Update Thread. June 12, '05

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It's been brought up in another thread that we probably need to update the Kami's marks again.:cool:
I already posted THIS old thread there but all the symbols are gone.:(
The only thing left informative are the descriptive terms for the marks such as, Kumar's "Star of David" mark and some others with word descriptions.
Everyone knows what a Star of David is as well as a Swastika and Railroad Tracks, so if anyone posting info on a mark could describe it in such a manner with the name of the kami using that mark this thread could be true to form, so to speak, for a much longer time, unless the kamis change their marks again.:rolleyes: :grumpy:

Two exclamation points ! ! could be used for Railroad Tracks for instance to further clarify what is meant, because from my understanding that's more like what the mark looks like.
Is that correct? :confused: I've never had a khuk from the Railroad Track kami.:grumpy:

Okay all y'all guys, y'all know, y'all with the scuttlebutt, chime in.;) :D
 
So railroad kami is different from Amtrak (swastika) kami? :confused:


Edit: My son just slept through a 5.6 earthquake whose epicenter was 50 miles away. :D
 
As I understand, the "Railroad" kami's real name is Raju Rasaili and has the initials of "RR", aka "Amtrak" and has always used the flyflot (the actual name of the symbol, not swastika...the arms are in opposite directions and meanings *totally* different).

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The "New Mexico" mark- is it the kamis helper team?

It's been on (almost) every blade for a year...

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Ad Astra :confused:
 
Sorry...copied from the other thread for readability...



Bura - Crescent Moon
Kesar - Rising Sun (pre 2002), Flag (post 2002)
Kumar -Star of David
Sanu - Cross
Sher - Sun (pre 2002), Rising Sun (post 2002)
Kami With No Name (KNN) - Butterlamp with or without flame
Durba - Flag (pre 2002)
Prakash - Small Khukuri
Khadka - Fish
Murali - Trisul (may have occasionally used a flag also)
Shankar - KS
RR (aka Amtrac) - Flyflot
YB - Exclamation Point ! (Bang)

At least this is what I have jotted down...ya'll tell me and let's try to get some agreement...
 
donutsrule said:
So railroad kami is different from Amtrak (swastika) kami? :confused:
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DR I wasn't sure what mark the railroad kami used which is why I said it like I did.
Sorry for any confusion I may have caused.:o

Oh, and Uwinv, not that I'm the spellink poleece or anything but it's spelled Fylflot not Flyflot.;) :D

http://www.northvegr.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=787&start=0&

And it looks like what you have down is all right but I'll defer to the others that are a lot more knowledgeable about the marks than I am.:footinmou ;) :D

From the info you have down I'm thinking I may have some khuks by Kesar I thought were made by Bura.:rolleyes:

Also isn't the "Trisul" similar to what a pitchfork or Neptune's Trident would look like?:confused: Now I'm confused, still.;)

Ad Astra said:
The "New Mexico" mark- is it the kamis helper team?
It's been on (almost) every blade for a year...

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=O=
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Ad Astra
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Mike I'm not sure if we ever did get a straight answer from Uncle Bill on the New Mexico mark.
The last I knew and understood it was sort of like a trademark to keep other manufacturers from making khuks and marking them as HI's.

Anyone else understand it that way?
We may have to ask the Lady of the House for an answer on this one. ;-)
 
Yes...the trisul is the pitchfork mark...

hehehe...okay, a touch of dislexia I guess...in my mind, I pronounced it the way I spelled it...not that I have ever heard the word actually pronounced anyway...

BTW, I currently have examples of:
Bura
Kumar
Sher
Sanu
Amtrac
Durba

I *have had* ones by Bang, Amtrac and Kesar but those have been given away as gifts.

I also have one I am not 100% certain of...the wood gripped WWII in the custom quickdraw rig. It has K.S., the Trisul *and* the New Mexico mark on it...what do you think? Marks say Murali *or* Shankar...but since they started using the New Mexico???

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Nasty I have an AK from about 3 years ago that has both the K.S. and the trisul on it. Uncle Bill said it was made by Shankar. What's the edge like? This 15" AK has a masher edge on it. More axe than knife and fully convex.
Of course, I ALSO have a JKM with KS and a trisul mark that Uncle Bill said was Kesar's work. In other words...i'm just posting to post and have no idea:)

Jake
 
Bang = ! = Yadep = YB

All one and the same...

KS = Shankar

Kesar = Rising Sun or Flag (per and post 2002) As far as I can tell, Kesar never used initials...

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I agree Tom...that's why I question that one. I am trying to look it up now...see if I can find a post on it.

BTW, thw NM mark has been in use a full year and a half and we still don't know why...time to ask Yangdu to make a call (email) and find out...

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Nasty said:
As I understand, the "Railroad" kami's real name is Raju Rasaili and has the initials of "RR", aka "Amtrak" and has always used the flyflot (the actual name of the symbol, not swastika...the arms are in opposite directions and meanings *totally* different).
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How do the arms in opposite directions make the meaning completely different!? (on old Indian as well as old Saxon urns and such, we find the 'swastika' in both 'directions').
 
GREAT THREAD, updating the Kami marks. Tried to give Yvsa another chicklet for kicking it off, but I gotta spread some around first . . .


Kinda OT, but the Fylfot/swastika has yet another name: "Hakaristi," the old Finnish Air Force national insignia. Shown below is a Me Bf109 of the WWII Finnish Air Force, presently on display at the Central Finland Aviation Museum:

mersu1.jpg


The Finnish Air Force was founded 6th March 1918, as the Swedish Count Erich von Rosen presented the White Army its first airplane, a Thulin (Morane-Saulnier L) Parasol fighter aircraft, to be used against the Reds in the Finnish Civil War.

Count von Rosen, a notable expeditor, had a swastika as his coat of arms, due to his expeditions in the Orient and had his coat of arms painted in four positions on the aircraft presented (on both wings' upper and lower surfaces). As the wings were of natural linen, the swastika was seen as on white background. As the Civil War ended in White victory, the Blue swastika ("Hakaristi" in Finnish) on White was adopted as the emblem of the Finnish Air Force.

"Hakaristi" was used as the national insignia of the Finnish Air Force until the end of the Second World War when it was changed to the current white-blue-white roundel.

NOTE: The "Hakaristi" has nothing to do with the Swastika symbol used by the Nazi Germany, despite Finland and Germany being allies for part of WWII until the end of the Finnish Continuation War with the Soviet Union. As part of the Finnish capitulation terms, Finland broke off the alliance with Germany and kicked out the remaining German military units in the north of the country.

Noah, student of Finnish and Swedish history and master of arcane trivia.
 
Imagine having a WWII, marked with a FYLFOT, and made by Kumar...

Seriously, the "New Mexico" mark intrigues me... only have a couple without it.

Quote/Jake: "Of course, I ALSO have a JKM with KS and a trisul mark that Uncle Bill said was Kesar's work...

Jake"

Me too. Kesar or Murali?

And while were mailing stuff down, how about the Villager marks? My guess is there are 2 or more "Village" forges. And that our kamis "approve" them with their mark, not actually make them- maybe tweak 'em.. just guessin'.


Ad Astra :confused:
 
The Fylfot is known as the "manji" in Buddhism and represents Dharma.

AKA "tetraskelion"
AKA "hakenkrutz"
AKA "suvasti"
AKA "cross gammadion"

(For 100 Sci Fi trivia points (or ten Kuatloos), in what context did "Triskalion" appear?)
 
A lot more...especially since I knew the answer.

LOL...

The issue I wanted to make clear was that it was not related...the kamis are not Nazis, nor are they commies...

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