New Kershaw Siege (Tomahawk!) #1073

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To go along with the ZT 0102 (Beast of a) hawk, Kershaw has developed a more cost efficient Tomahawk.

The New Siege #1073!

Specs: 3cr13mov, Black Oxide coating, Glass filled Nylon scales, 4 inch blade on the head, 16 inches overall length, sharpened spike, and prybar with nail puller. It will include a nylon sheath.

MSRP $79.99, street price will be lower.

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NO ETA's, This is a prototype picture and is therby subject to changes as are the specs and price.

Enjoy!
 
Love the look! I'm just not so sure about the steel. I have a knife with a blade made with 3cr13mov and it doesn't hold an edge very well. Get it U.S made with a nice 1095 and I would buy more then one lol.
 
TBL said:
Love the look! I'm just not so sure about the steel. I have a knife with a blade made with 3cr13mov and it doesn't hold an edge very well.
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Well its a hawk, not sure edge retention is super important. As long as it's reasonably tough, it should work fine. And this undercuts even the crkt hawks.
 
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I agree TBL, they should've used 10xx series carbon steel IMHO...

Neverdie makes a good point though as long as it's tough you're good to go. :thumbup:
 
I think this one will be residing in the pocket of my front door! Great piece to beat the snot out of when you need or just want to!
 
I like that. I respect KAI, but the Vanadis 4 Extra just seems like overkill in a hawk design. This one actually makes a lot more sense to me.
 
I love it's design but I won't buy it unless they make it in a carbon or tool steel,and if they make it in a tough carbon steel I'd buy at least two!
 
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neverdie36 said:
Well its a hawk, not sure edge retention is super important. As long as it's reasonably tough, it should work fine. And this undercuts even the crkt hawks.
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Edge retention isn't important on a bladed tool? Even for the internet that is ridiculous thing to say….. well it's a car, I'm not sure the tires are important. DOH!
 
Joe L. Bachs said:
Edge retention isn't important on a bladed tool? Even for the internet that is ridiculous thing to say….. well it's a car, I'm not sure the tires are important. DOH!
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Fair enough, should have said wear resistance.

Are you really going to be opening boxes and doing edc chores with this all day everyday so that wear resistance is an important factor?

Or is something like this designed to be tough and hold up to chopping through metals and wood?

And it's a truck, I'm not sure 0-60 times are all that important, now tow rating, yes that's important.
 
I believe that the 3Cr13 steel is a typo because the description clearly states carbon steel but the tech specs list 3cr13. I don't believe kershaw would make a tomahawk out of stainless but instead out of the 65mn(1065) steel used in the camp series or the carbon steel used in the camp axe

"The Siege is a powerful tool that is adept at everything from obstacle removal and dynamic entry to opening crates. The hatchet head offers a durable edge. The back spike is designed for maximum penetration, while the pommel includes a nail-puller and a sturdy pry bar.

Sturdy carbon steel makes the Siege tomahawk extremely tough, while the black-oxide coating protects the blade. Riveted, glass-filled nylon scales with Kershaw’s exclusive K-Texture™ pattern provide a secure grip and handling comfort.

The Siege comes with its own sheath for storage and easy carrying."

Information from Kershaw

Info listed on bladeHQ
 
Stainless is fine. Lots of pretty common stainless steels exhibit a mix of edge retention and impact resistance comparable to 10XX steels at axe/breaching hawk hardness. I don't see the steel as an issue. Remember that the standard steel often used in axes considered of decent grade isn't 1095, nor even 1075, but 1055.
 
Again with the hole in the head in a breaching hawk. Actually looks fairly functional except for that stupid hole. Regardless of steel....that alone would keep me from buying one.
 
Well stainless may be fine for you but I've tried other stainless hatchets and hawks and can say for a fact they do not preform like a good tool steel or spring steel.
 
It would still have to be an appropriate stainless with appropriate heat treatment. Which is rare in a stainless axe, but I'd trust KAI to do a decent job of it. They worked miracles with 440A, and if they can make THAT take and hold an edge so well then I imagine they could do it with a 'hawk if they wanted to.
 
FortyTwoBlades said:
Stainless is fine. Lots of pretty common stainless steels exhibit a mix of edge retention and impact resistance comparable to 10XX steels at axe/breaching hawk hardness. I don't see the steel as an issue. Remember that the standard steel often used in axes considered of decent grade isn't 1095, nor even 1075, but 1055.
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Because there are better options - 4140, 5160. You never need more then 0.5-0.6% of carbon in hawk.
But 3cr13? Well - maybe it will be thick enough.
 
idaho said:
Because there are better options - 4140, 5160. You never need more then 0.5-0.6% of carbon in hawk.
But 3cr13? Well - maybe it will be thick enough.
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Presumably they were figuring that their intended customers for that model were going to find the low maintenance qualities of stainless desirable. It's perfectly possible to create a stainless chopping tool of the requisite toughness. I guess time will tell once folks start getting their hands on them and smashing stuff.
 
I agree with FortyTwo, stainless can be more than sufficient, it's just rarely heat treated well enough to do so. In the same vein, if cold steel made a hawk that looked like this and used a 10xx steel, I wouldn't exactly trust that the heat treat would be sufficient, regardless of the steel. The treatment of the steel is far more important.

I don't see any real function to this, though. I guess it looks cooler than a hammer while you bash up old junk at an illegal dump site. For actual breaching, I don't see it holding up too well, but maybe I'll be proved wrong.
 
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