New King Kong Movie?

fulloflead

fulloflead

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That's ODD...

I just saw a COMMERCIAL for a movie trailer.

Let me be clear:
I didn't see a trailer. I saw a TV COMMERCIAL by a TV network that said there's GOING to be a movie trailer soon and that we should wait for it.

This thing is (apparantly) so 'big' (ahem: pun) that they're making commercials for the commercials!

I LOVE King Kong! FIRST it was the Empire State Building, THEN they remade it with the Twin Towers (World Trade Center), now...

hey, WAIT A MINUTE...

:confused:

there ARE no Twin Towers now. :eek: WTF are they going to do and what are the political implications and ramifications?

No matter, I'd wait in line to see this one on opening night...

unless I was imagining the commercial I just saw.

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Maybe they will have Kong pick his teeth with the Freedon Tower; if so, he will be the only guy to find a use for that worthless proposed structure.

n2s
 
not2sharp said:
Maybe they will have Kong pick his teeth with the Freedon Tower; if so, he will be the only guy to find a use for that worthless proposed structure.

n2s
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I liked the wind turbines in the top. It was eco-smart. I think more buildings should have them. Other than that...
I kinda like Keith Olbermann's idea of rebuilding the originals except subtracting one inch from one of them for each person who died...

Except I would ADD one inch for each person instead. :)

But let's NOT get this moved to Political. :rolleyes: ;)

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Peter Jackson is supposedly doing this one.

The second one with Jeff Bridges didn't exactly do it for most KK fans. But Jesse Lange was hot.
 
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Looks like it is going to be the Empire State building again. (does that monkey have an antenna mast up his ....? - No wonder he is screaming!)

n2s
 
That poster completely sums up the post-modern angst for all of us: the quiet wilderness man-- naked and primordial-- confronting the anxiety and dread of urban co-habitation.

Kong was coerced into this maddening world, yet we go there on our own accord. So who is wiser: man or ape?

Plus he has that thingie up his ass.
 
komondor said:
That poster completely sums up the post-modern angst for all of us: the quiet wilderness man-- naked and primordial-- confronting the anxiety and dread of urban co-habitation.

Kong was coerced into this maddening world, yet we go there on our own accord. So who is wiser: man or ape?

Plus he has that thingie up his ass.
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Have you been drinking?

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fulloflead said:
But let's NOT get this moved to Political. :rolleyes: ;)
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Tick, tock, tick, tock........like sands through the hourglass......;)
 
Here's what IMDB has to say http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0360717/

and the cast...
Cast overview, first billed only:
Naomi Watts .... Ann Darrow
Jack Black .... Carl Denham
Adrien Brody .... Jack Driscoll
Andy Serkis .... King Kong/Lumpy the Cook
Jamie Bell .... Jimmy
Kyle Chandler .... Bruce Baxter
Lobo Chan .... Choy
Thomas Kretschmann .... Captain Englehorn
Evan Parke .... Hayes
Colin Hanks .... Preston
John Sumner .... Herb
David Dengelo .... Venture Crew
Stephen Hall .... Venture Crew
Richard Kavanagh .... Venture Crew
Louis Sutherland .... Venture Crew
 
I think the FX for the first movie were excellent for it's time, but the FX for the Jeff Bridges movie were very poor overall. The Kong was laughable sometimes. Now, with CGG, they have a chance to really do it right. If they can put together a good screenplay, with good characterization and acting, etc., it might be the best of the three.
 
Could be great if they don't turn it into a vehicle for some actor or actress to show off or get discovered. Keep the focus on Kong, not the people. That Godzilla movie failed because they did all those things. Jackson did a good job handling the compex story of Lord of the Rings and didn't give anyone a showcase spot, so I have hope he'll handle this well.
 
I ~love~ the original King Kong. The special effects were done in stop-motion, one frame at a time - absolutely incredible. I'm getting tired of the computer-cartoon animation inserted into modern films...

The 70s King Kong was a real piece of crap, and even worse was King Kong Lives.

Anyone seen Godzilla vs King Kong? They tacked on a different ending for American audiences in which Kong wins. I'm a sucker for Godzilla movies. The American Godzilla was just OK.

-Bob
 
Bob W said:
The special effects were done in stop-motion, one frame at a time - absolutely incredible. I'm getting tired of the computer-cartoon animation inserted into modern films...
-Bob
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You're peachin' to the choir, baby! Movie effects have really made no progress, IMHO, since Return of the Jedi. The original Star Wars trilogy did it right with the models and little explosions on high-speed film. It was all very honest, organic and VERY VERY good looking stuff. NOW, movies all look like video games - done quick and cheap - some of it looks cartooney. I don't like it.

A few exceptions might be Jurassic Park because they DID build models and attach electrodes to them to sort of scan them into the computer. It was sort of a bio-digital sort of thing that I think worked well.

And the movie The Ring where we experienced the herky-jerky rewind/fast-forward slap together editing to create something unique... until they started overdoing it in The Grudge and ruined it.

Still. Stop motion with the little models moving a fraction of an inch at at time... it's a lot of work, but it's HONEST work and I think it pays off.

Thanks for bringing that up. It's a favorite top of mine as you can see. ;)

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fulloflead said:
Still. Stop motion with the little models moving a fraction of an inch at at time... it's a lot of work, but it's HONEST work and I think it pays off.
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Ray Harryhausen would be proud... And he has great reason to be...

Have you seen "Jason and the Argonauts" and "Clash of the Titans"?
 
Centaur said:
Ray Harryhausen would be proud... And he has great reason to be...

Have you seen "Jason and the Argonauts" and "Clash of the Titans"?
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Yes, I love Clash of the Titans. I've seen it dozens of times. That Medusa scene is bone chilling! Those are pretty rough compared to the original 3 Star Wars films, but still good. They hadn't quite yet figured out how to put a human next to a giant monster and make it look right.

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"Jason and the Argonauts"

One of my all time favorites. The skeleton fight is better then anything I have seen in computer animation. The problem with CGE is that it is too easy to turn one model into a hundred, and the hundred into ten thousand, and you end up with an effect which is neither convincing nor exciting. Just campare the action sequences in Gladiator or LOR to Sparticus and Braveheart, there is a natural element of randomness in the later films which can not yet been replicated by automation.

n2s
 
Hey, computer effects, used properly, let you do amazing things you couldn't otherwise do. The Lord of the Rings films were incredible, and couldn't've been pulled off without computers.

Overuse CGI, though, and you get Revenge of the Sith... :barf:

Peter Jackson hired a real swordmaker to design the cutlery, and had armies of costumed orcs to use where the computer generated hordes wouldn't work properly. Lucas used a CGI C-3PO just to make tinkering in post-production more convenient. Jackson had a _huge_ model of Minas Tirith built, just for the epic establishing shots. Lucas used a GCI blockade runner, when his storehouse still holds the original model, gathering dust. The 2005 footage looks fakey, while the 1977 footage looks real enough to touch. That's stinky. :rolleyes:
 
I think CGI is BEST when used to touch-up something that began life more organicly. (Example: Jurassic Park)

I remember Lucas talking about how he came up with the Ewok language. They started out with something that was totally 100% made up from scratch, but they said it SOUNDED like jibberish - sounded made up. So, they began taking other languages, mixing them together and modifying them and they got something that sounded like a REAL language.

I think THAT'S the philosophy they need to use to create special effects. Start with something REAL and use the computer to just manipulate it instead of trying to use the computer to create things out of whole cloth.

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