New Kris Cutlery Katana

DHB the cutter

DHB the cutter

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Hello everyone,

As I mentioned in another thread I think that Kris Cutlery is a really good option to all that want a real sword, but a not very expensive one.I knew they are upgrading the katana showed in their site (that is not available anymore), the new model is reaching (probably) till the end of march, the price will be $ 225,00 by the 29" katana (I myself am in the waiting list to this new model).
I want to know if any of you already saw and hold this sword, how does it seems ???

Cheers!!!

:) :) :)
 
What kind of sheaths do they come with, I was looking on another site and saw a kris cutlery with a multi position kydex sheath and was wondering if that was from the factory so to speak or did someone have it made.......
 
Hi,

Kris Katans, the kind I'm aware of come with wooden scabbards. Nothing fancy just plain and without the beltloop like as seen on other Katana scabbards. There is however a brass fitting at the mouth of the scabbard. The hilts are also of hardwood and wrapped in black cord. The drawback here (if you want to see it like that) is that the hilt is not olny pinned through the tang but glued onto the tang as well. Still one that is enterprising and creative enough might coukld figure ways to inhance the appearence of the sword scabbard and hilt.;)
 
I have the Katana 26 and Wakizashi (ordered Jan 2001) and they are like Bladedude describes. I also have the Katana 29 (ordered Feb 1999) and it is somewhat different, probably because it is an older model. The blade is thicker but narrower than the 26, and the handle is a bit thick close to the tsuba. Instead of thin paracord type cord on the others, my 29 is wrapped with cotton string covered with laquer. I also have the Ninjato but it's not as good as the others.

I've read about the new ones but haven't seen anything on Kris Cutlery's site.
 
They say a picture's worth a thousand words:

KC29.jpg
 
Hello,

Thanks for all posts.

Triton, this is exactly what I want to know, how it be !!!
I think it`s beatiful, but the hilt seems a litle eccentric (like the older one). You is a scabard expert, so what you can tell us about it ?

Thanks again
:)
 
DHB,

That is the older version. The current version (at least the last one I have) has a more even handle and is wrapped in thin paracord. The new ones, which I read about in a catalog maybe in 2000, is supposed to have a traditional look.
 
Sorry DHB I did not want to give you the wrong idea. Ben is exactly right this is the older model. I bought it about 4 years ago.
 
Hi,

I had found this pic a little diferent from a photo I look in a catalog, but well looking it is the same. Triton thanks by your intention. Also thanks Benjamin.


I think that everyone here actually mentioned the old model, anyone here has a previous pic or experience with the new REACHING 29" katana, the one they will sell in two weeks by now??? :confused:
 
I posted the following on SwordForum, posting a copy here if it will help.


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New style "Elite" KC Katana blade pics and (sorta) review

I am hoping this link will work... man, MSN sucks! Why can't they just give you an IP address and a directory like a REAL ISP?

http://communities.msn.com/Troysprojectpics/shoebox.msnw

Sorry, I don't think I can inline the pics in the post with this Mickey Mouse operation.

Major point:
This blade is probably NOT exactly what will end up being the final result. This is a sample that Cecil brought with him for finishing, and he has decided he is not happy with how "showy" the temper line is. (He wants stronger brighter one, and said he will probably end up using a straight one.) I haven't done any polishing or etching to bring it out on this yet, but it is just barely visible. I would day it's closest to the Notare style by what I can see. Hoping I can make it "Pop" more with some etching. I did get a bit of a discount though, so I am willing to do some work on it. Normally it's $225, I believe.

Minor point:
I am trying to become more comfortable with the correct terminology used in discussing japanese swords. I am including both an everyday english
version of the terms and what I believe are the correct terms. If I goof, please point it out so I can learn.


OK, pics in order and pointing out details that might be missed:

1) Overall shape, 36" yardstick next to it for reference.

2) Hey, it actually has a Yakote! (Ridge seperating point from body of the sword) I think it is an O' Kissaki (Long style point) in this case, but I am new to this. My old style KC Wak had no Yakote, so this is kinda cool.

3) Side view, that I hoped would show the Bo-Hi, (Fuller or grove) but it doesn't do too well. The Bo-Hi runs into the tang a couple inches, past the habaki (Blade collar). Not sure I dig that too much. Bo-Hi starts out about 5/16" wide and 1/8" deep, gradually gets slightly shallower and thinner down the length of the blade. The grinding in the Bo-Hi is slightly wavy, but not too bad. (Hard to see, but can tell by touch if you run fingers down it.)

4) Another pic of the Kissaki, more to show the termination of the Bo-Hi. Yakote is not showing as well as it does in real life. The termination of the Bo-Hi is slightly off from side to side... maybe 3/16"?

5) Tang stamp.. kind of cool... Star kind of shape like * Large K, small c . The K has a kind of squiggly upper arm.

*
K
c

6) ANother pic of the point. Yakote is not just cosmetic, you can feel the shift in angles along the line so it's actually ground in.

Overall, I am pleased with it. The edge is nicely hardened, punchy temper line or not. The back is soft, and a touch springy. The blade showed up bent, but I got it straight again which let me get a "feel" for the give point... I would guestimate it took a slight set at about 25 degrees. (I went in small stages)

(Very rough guess, and that is holding either end of the blade with a knee in the middle on the height of the reverse of the bend while straightening.) If anyone wants a better guess at the angle, describe to me how to check without destructive testing and I will do it. I am guessing it at just over 1/2 of a 45 degree bend.

I didn't get a weight on it (I meant to on the postage scale at work, but forgot.) but it seems like it will be lighter than the old style. All I have is an old style Wak to compare, if the Katana had a similar build it is surely heavier.

If you have any questions, let me know and I will do my best to answer. If you need better pics, I can try but no garuntees... my photography skills are non existant. :-)
 
TroyO, thank you a lot, I think you describe very well and I really enjoy it.

Madscientist, they will realease in the next 2 weeks, I E-mail them and the own Cecil Quirino answer me that in the last tuesday... And they will (at least they told me) a 26" model with the 29"

Cheers!!!
 
Hi,

Only to know,


All this talk about the new katana let me with a deep desire to see (and of course have) it, so last friday I talked again with mr. Cecil Quirino and already sent him the value of 225 dollars, then in the 20th day of march the Kris Cutlery will be sending to me their new 29" katana, it should reach here in Brazil at these days next month, and I intend to let a pic here to you guys !!!;)

TroyO you made a beautiful description, but I really did not could open the pic you let in the link, but thanks anyway...
 
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