New Logo design

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I wanted to design somthing a little different, other than my name so,I raise pitbulls and this logo is fitting
let me know what you think
Nathan
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I have never seen any logos like this, and I never seen or heard of
the knife brand you are speaking of.
Nathan
 
Bulldog brand has been around a long time.
It's kind of similar but obviously a pit bull is gonna look like a pit bull.
 
I know pitbulls are real cute, and rarely eat family members, but this is a wedge issue. As a Buddhist I might get a real warm feeling about swastika-like emblems on my knife given they are common, and non-controversial to some of that faith. I probably wouldn't choose them if I was planning on reaching out for sales to others.

I don't know if this is commercial for you, or if it ever could become so. If it is totally personal, then you can do something that satisfies you. That can end up being commercial too.


I hate large logos on knives, If you want a billboard you can pay for it yourself. Be sure that if you do go with this one, that it looks good at the size you feel is right for you. I think if I was scaling it I would want it pea sized, and this design would have too little resolution to be effective.
 
I dont know if you are speaking of me, but this has been my logo for a lot of years. Sorry about the poor photo quality!!!!!!!

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Nathan, why don't you want to use your name?

I read somewhere, I think it was something Loveless said...how is anybody going to know who made the knife?

I thought of some cool emblems which would encompass my initials and such. But people would just be looking at initials.

They look at one of mine and see "Wheeler" on it. They may not know who I am, but they can read the name and find out.

Maybe you're going off the notion that your repuation will precede you, and everyone will know who made the bull-dog knife...but it will take years before that could happen.

I'm not trying to be a jerk, I just think a fella's last name makes a great mark.
 
Nick
I am still going to use my last name.just on some blades that
will be differnt I would like to use it
As for a billboard,I don't understand what you mean?I have stencils made by marking methods and they are outstanding
and at the size I have them they are not to large.
Like I said I will not be putting this on every knife.
I did not know showing a picture of a logo would stir up
a nest of bees,I just should have keep it to myself:(
 
Nathan,Thats really nice artwork on your drawing,If you added your name on the neck or perhaps on a collar that should keep everyone happy..
 
I say do what you think you want. I have the same problems figuring out a logo. I think I'll go with a name for fancy pieces and a logo for tactical knives.
 
Rene
That is a neat idea,but I already have the stencils.
Protactical,I do not know what you mean by wedge issue,
How can you compare a Swastika to a Pitbull.
I love my dogs,and for a swasktika to be a non-controversrial
topic,I beg to differ.My pitbulls are my pets and that is it
I am not a pitbull fighter,A Swastika is a nazi sign,and it stood for
hate,somthing I don't care to be a part off.Millions of Jews were killed and you say this swasktika is a non-controversrial topic.
Lets think about that.
Nathan
 
Nathan, I just happened to get a Bulldog brand knife catalog in the mail yesterday. I have looked it over and there is no logo near yours except on a bisplay case they give ya with a $800 and up order. The other logos are of two pit fighting and of one pit in an alert pose. Yours does'nt bear any resemblance to theirs. Man,you just cant catch a break around here:D btw sent ya an e=mail
 
Nathan,
Your logo looks fine ! It's not offensive to anyone, it is sepcific to you and your taste and represents something you probably love as much as knives. That's cool, go with what you like. Your logo is not enough like any other dog logo out to offend anyone.....RDT
 
Nathan,

A lot of people, no offence to your dogs, hate pitbulls. Some areas ban them. Unless you are specifically looking for an edgy symbol, I wouldn't use it. I'm pretty neutral on pitbulls, but wouldn't want a knife with one on it, I think they are somewhat ugly. They also are part of the whole chopper, lowrider, tats etc... culture. Which, again, is fine, as long as that is a demographic you want. We just recently had a kid literally eaten by a Bull Mastiff in this town, every year we get one or two of these incidents. It's a working class area, mostly, and people have multiple PBs and so forth. It's always the same half a dozen breeds.

If this is a marketing thing, then you have to consider how the broad range of people feel, unless the whole marketing thing is based on a specific, small demographic, or on a "I don't care" kind of edginess.

The revised logo with the name is even worse (IMHO), because for that name to be minimally readable, the dog's head would be huge. Even if you put my pitbull Frank's picture on your knife, I don't want it to be larger than 1/4", and at that size, your name would be illegible. But that is just a practical issue, you can choose what you like from a series of printouts.

I am not comparing pitbulls to swastikas except to say that some symbols are open to multiple readings. I have attached some varied swastika meanings below. Even with these I wouldn't plan on adopting the symbol any time soon.

"design: an equilateral cross with arms bent at right angles, all in the same rotary direction, usually clockwise. The Hindu and Buddhist swastika goes in the opposite direction.


meaning: a symbol of prosperity and good fortune, a sun symbol of universality.


derivation: from the Sanskrit swastika: "conducive to well-being." In India, a distinction is made between the right-hand swastika which moves in a clockwise direction and the left-hand swastika ( more correctly called sauswatika), which moves in a counterclockwise direction. The right hand swastika is a solar symbol and imitates in the rotation of its arms the course of the Sun, which in the Northern hemisphere appears to pass from east then south to west. The left-hand swastika more often stands for might the terrifying goddess Kali and magical practice.


In India , Hindus use the swastika to mark the opening pages of account books, thresholds, doors, and offerings. Among the Jains it is the emblem of their seventh Tirthankara.


In the Buddhist tradition, the swastika symbolizes the feet or footprints of the Buddha and is often used to mark at the beginning of texts. Modern Tibetan Buddhism uses it as a clothing decoration. With the spread of Buddhism, it has passed into the iconography of China and Japan where it has been used to denote plurality, abundance, prosperity and long life.


In Nazi Germany, the swastika (G: Hakenkreuz) it became a national symbol. A poet, and nationalist ideologist Guido von List had suggested it as a symbol for all anti-Semitic organizations and when the National Socialist party was formed in 1919 -20 it adopted it. On Sept. 5, 1935, a black swastika on a white circle on a red background became the national flag of Germany. This use ended in May 1945 with the German surrender.


Other uses of the symbol: in ancient Mesopotamia it was a favorite symbol on coinage, In Scandinavia it was the symbol for the god Thor's hammer.. In early Christian art it was called the gammadion cross because it was made of four gammas. It is also found in Mayan and Navajo art."


I just heard Pat Buchanan say something this morning about wedge issues. I think he said they unite your base while deviding the other guy's. If that's what the term means, I misused it.
 
A Pitbull to me is a noble animal,to know them is to love them
They will love you until there dying breath,they are a sign of nobleness to me
Pitbulls were breed for fighting,Which I will have no part of
but onething they are and that is couragess.
The reason I pick a pitbull for some of my knives is simple
some of my up and coming work will have that hard,tough look to them
there is were the pitbull logo will come in.
Knife making is a personal thing to me,I make a knife first
for myself then if I put the design out there and people like it
well that is a cherry on top.
So I will march to the beat of my own drum,with no apologies to no one about my taste.nuff said on this topic
 
That makes sense to me. I didn't ask for any apologies, or for you to do anything to please me. You asked the collectivity "let me know what you think". Just telling you. Telling you what I think you want to hear is a waste of both our time.
 
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