New Marine Corp. Issue?

Nuke_Spook

Nuke_Spook

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Seems like I just read a thread arguing between Ontario, Ka-bar and Camillus on who was making the knife issued to the Marine Corp and this one wasn't mentioned. What the heck is "Diamond Steel"? Does anyone know any info on this blade?

"ON-OKC3S Ontario Knife Company U.S. Marine Corps Multi-Purpose Bayonet - Official Issue!

"Designed for the Marine Corps to serve Marines of the 21st Century! The new official issue Marine Corps bayonet, this 13.25in knife was designed to provide the Marine with a more agressive fighting implement than the M9. Each knife features the US Marine Corp Eagle, Globe & Anchor symbol and was designed to match the new digital camoflage uniform with all brown sheath, handle & webbing.

The 8" blade is 1.375" wide, and features a 1.75" serration section for extra cutting power on dense materials. Made of Ontario's new proprietary Diamond Steel, it is .200" thick and has a 53-58 Rc Hardness. Each blade is coated in a phosphate non-reflective finish."

http://www.1sks.com/store/ontario-us-marine-corps-multi-purpose-bayonet.html
 
Often the term "proprietary" is just hype but I would be interested in the exact composition.
 
Wow! We haven't seen this yet in the "fleet" yet?

YES, This is going to replace both the KABAR and M7 bayonet.

S/F,
Ceya ........ceya Knife Designz
 
This seems pretty hard to get excited about. 53-58 Rockwell??? This looks like a more pointed version of the old Kabar. I can't wait to see what the latest "mystery" steel turns out to be. IIRC, my old knife cost me $14 new, now you can get one for :eek: :eek: :eek:
 
It is CPM3V. I am suprised at the listed hardness. I wonder if that isn't some kind of mistake. CPM3V can be run much harder but it would be a bear to sharpen in the field. Here is a link over to the American Tomahawk Company forum where it is discussed (kind of, they are using it to make an ax.)

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=255030

and where they talk about it being 3V


http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=262421&highlight=3v*

look towards the end of thr thread on the second link.
 
The knife has a BIG difference at the Rockwell scale. It differs from 53-58 Rockwell! I wonder what quality that heat treat process can have with such different RCH? I wonder why they went to carbon steel in a modern combat knife at that price,when there are so many great stainless steels on the market such as S30V and VG-10?

Manowar
 
Seems grotesquely overpriced to me. Also, if you need a 5-point range for your heat treat, I think it means that you can't control your heat treat very well. Rc is reasonably okay, but far under the capability of CPM 3V. 53 is just pathetic IMHO.
Ontario must be getting their contracts on price, because, to me, they are the home of the "less than optimal heat treat."
 
Truck ,
I wasn't getting excited over the blade,just over how the civilian market has it now and we are still waiting.

I will buy it just in case a missing gear statement comes my way!

S/F,
Ceya>>Ceya Knife Designz
 
you have to remember with a bayonet that the steel needs to be able to take a beating (be somewhat flexible). bayonets used in the field tend to be used for everything (to say the least). I remember when I was active duty for 8 years the old m7's received quite a beating. Stainless steels do not tend to be as resilient (blades tend to break much easier) as carbon steels. Ive seen a pic of this new knife/bayonet and it just looks like a kabar made into a bayonet.
 
xsrdx, thats a very intersting article.

Personally from what Ive seen of this knife I do not think I would spend the money for what these would cost the average consumer. Ive seen them go for around $100.00. A little much to say the least, especially for what your getting for the money.
 
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