New Sub Hilt Vallotton is out

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At least thru the Spyderco website.

Anyone getting one? While I like the overall look having both a hollowgrind and convex edge sounds like it might be hard to sharpen?
 
I am looking forward to seeing "real" pictures of it. It's not really my style but we're one release closer to the Tuff. :D That type of edge may require more of a free hand sharpening style on a stone or strop. :confused:
 
I do like the overall look of the knife, it appears to be a fantastic design and I'd imagine the fit and finish is a homerun as well. As for the difficulty in sharpening - My Edge Pro would heartily disagree gentlemen. ;)
 
Soulrack223 said:
I am looking forward to seeing "real" pictures of it. It's not really my style but we're one release closer to the Tuff. :D That type of edge may require more of a free hand sharpening style on a stone or strop. :confused:
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I hear you. The Tuff is the next one on my "want" list.
 
I think it would look better without the spydie hole, which apparently is redundant because the thumb studs also serve as a blade stop.
 
AF said:
I think it would look better without the spydie hole, which apparently is redundant because the thumb studs also serve as a blade stop.
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yeah, there are a few models that I think would look much sleeker without the hole, without any real drawback. I mean, we get it, you make knives with the spyderhole, and most of us love it. But it doesn't have to be on EVERY knife (fixed blades included haha)

But on the same hand, I don't think I'd buy a spyderco without the hole, so maybe my opinion means nada... It's just on the knives where they really try and bring some certain "look" to the knife, normally some classic variation, and then the hole just looks completely out of place. Other companies have thumbstuds, thumb disks, flickers only, and even opening holes all in their line up. Even with the hole being my favorite method, a thumbstud spydie might just attract some people who didn't like them before, and then convert them based on build quality alone.
 
singularity35 said:
Oh, I get it. But how(un)comfortable will that be?
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Again, why would it be any more (or less) uncomfortable than the exposed lockbar on a Reeve lock knife?

AF said:
I think it would look better without the spydie hole, which apparently is redundant because the thumb studs also serve as a blade stop.
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Given that the stud presses up against the frame when the knife is open, how can you open the knife all the way with your thumb is on it? At the very least is would seem to make opening more cumbersome, or favor less reliable opening methods, like flicking.
 
The Deacon said:
Again, why would it be any more (or less) uncomfortable than the exposed lockbar on a Reeve lock knife?

Given that the stud presses up against the frame when the knife is open, how can you open the knife all the way with your thumb is on it? At the very least is would seem to make opening more cumbersome, or favor less reliable opening methods, like flicking.
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Because it's thin(relative to the scales) and protrudes from a much thicker surrounding handle as compare to the lockbar on a RIL which is even with the other side.

Anyway, I hope I'm wrong and it won't be an issue. That's why I'd like to hear from people who'll have handled the valloton.
 
I know everyone doesn't love the spydie hole, but on this one it really looks odd to me, and seems to ruin the lines.
I'm going to give it some time, it may grow on me as many have.

Look forward to handling one at Blade, that should really tell the tale.
 
I think my thumb would get confused--thumb stud or Spydie hole? I love the overall look of the knife and the smooth scales, but the redundacy of the stud and hole just don't sit right with me.
 
The stud is a blade stop not an opening device, just like on a flipper. You need to hole to open the blade.

Spyderco puts some kind of hole in every knife to protect their trademark...the open hole. They used to have a patent on the opening hole, but it ran out, now they are trying to keep the opening hole to themselves by calling it a trademark. That's why they have that stupid (IMHO) hole in their fixed blades where it's not needed.
 
This isn't the first knife with both a hole and stud/stop. Most Striders I have seen are the same way.
 
The Grind is very ineresting, but it seems that it is basically a dress tactical knife
 
brownshoe said:
The stud is a blade stop not an opening device, just like on a flipper. You need to hole to open the blade.

Spyderco puts some kind of hole in every knife to protect their trademark...the open hole. They used to have a patent on the opening hole, but it ran out, now they are trying to keep the opening hole to themselves by calling it a trademark. That's why they have that stupid (IMHO) hole in their fixed blades where it's not needed.
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You mean the hole that functions as a forward lanyard hole? The kind that keeps a knife in your hands in case you slip while cutting?
 
No I mean the hole in each blade put there to protect the spyderco trademark. If you use it as a forward lanyard hole, that's great, but that's not why spyderco started putting holes in the blade portion of their fixed blades. For example, the Moran never had a hole, and now it does. The Swick certainly needs no forward lanyard (it's got a big hole for your finger) and has a tiny hole on the blade. I find the hole stupid, since, lets say for the Moran, it just gives a place for dirt and crap to gather. Plus you ever see a real Moran with a hole in the blade?
 
brownshoe said:
Spyderco puts some kind of hole in every knife to protect their trademark...the open hole. They used to have a patent on the opening hole, but it ran out, now they are trying to keep the opening hole to themselves by calling it a trademark. That's why they have that stupid (IMHO) hole in their fixed blades where it's not needed.
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That's why you are so much more successful a knife manufacturer than Sal. :D
 
brownshoe said:
That's why they have that stupid (IMHO) hole in their fixed blades where it's not needed.
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I respect your opinion but do not share it.

I do find your wording to be offensive. Calling someone's trademark stupid is disrespectful and stating that it is your honest opinion does not add any class. Of course, this is just my honest opinion...
 
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