New Support for DMT Edge Pro Stones

BladeChemist

BladeChemist

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I ran across a recent thread on the spyderco forums where a poster mentioned they had contacted DMT who informed them they were aware of the demand for E.P. DMT stones and were going to design some (with at least a 6 month wait).

However, I just got off the phone with a DMT support member who knew about the same thread, but they seemed to imply that no real plans were in motion as of yet.

Personally, I'm not that interested in trying to sharpen with the 2" wide stones currently available. Doing the math, it would seem they could sell some 1"x6" inch stones for ~$10 and maybe 1/2"x6" stones for ~$5 a pop. Mount them on a stone blank and you're good to go. If you're interested I encourage you to call or contact DMT (contact page) and voice your support for them to produce and sell DMT stones in the above sizes.

I don't see why they couldn't just cut some of the 2" stones in half (or would that be fairly easy, say, with a hacksaw?)
 
I'd be interested in them as well, well the coarse/x coarse anyway. I've been thinking of getting some of those chosera or shapton stones to use instead of the tapes. Hate the damn tapes..
 
kingsqueak said:
Aren't the DMT "Aligner" stones the right size to glue on EP blanks? I thought they fit?
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Hmmm, looking at the aligner stone dimensions: 4.3 x 0.9 x 0.2 inches
While the edge pro stones are 6 x 1 inches (not sure of thickness).

The aligner stones appear to have the 'catch divots' which means less coverage with diamonds. But I don't see any problem fitting it to a stone blank if someone is willing to give it a try.

However, at the prices I'm seeing for what you get I would just buy an already mounted stone from Dale. Good question though.
 
Yea theres worked fine and then designed for it, I'm a slight perfectionist and rather have something made for it then just riggin something up.
 
What's wrong with using the 2x6"ers? They work great, with no problems that I've found. Many of us have been using them for a year or so. It does work best to have them mounted to a 2" wide blank, though.

Contact Jende if you don't want to make your own.
 
imho 2" is way to big and heavy, i don't want to struggle with the thing to keep a light touch on the blade and i want to see what i'm doing.
 
As pwet said pressure would be a major issue with a heavy stone like the 6x2. I think pressure will be a problem anyways and many will complain about wearing out their stones.
 
what i've been thinking lately is to use atoma replacement plate directly on an aluminium blank (the one for the tapes).

atoma are japan made diamond plate available from 140 to 1200 IIRC, they use a heavy metal backing like dmt but the diamonds are glued on a thin metal sheet glued to the heavy base, so you can only buy this sheet when your diamonds wear of. this will probably be a lot easier to cut because the steel layer is pretty thin (around 1mm i think)
 
pwet said:
imho 2" is way to big and heavy, i don't want to struggle with the thing to keep a light touch on the blade and i want to see what i'm doing.
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knifenut1013 said:
As pwet said pressure would be a major issue with a heavy stone like the 6x2. I think pressure will be a problem anyways and many will complain about wearing out their stones.
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Yeh, true. It is a struggle to keep a light touch. I'm sure even with the care I'm exercising that I am stripping diamonds from the plate. It is also quite difficult to be precise with the weight of the plate.
 
Think of it like this, the weight of the stone plus the EP arm is already too much even before you touch it.
 
knifenut1013 said:
Think of it like this, the weight of the stone plus the EP arm is already too much even before you touch it.
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Yes, it is. You have to be supporting the weight to have a lighter touch resulting in less precision and the 2 inch wide stone makes for loss of visual control especially when grinding the tip.
 
Interesting theories. Ever tried it? I've been using mine for a couple of years. They work great for me. No noticeable diamond wear. Knives get profiled in no time, without nasty slurry, I may add. I have no trouble with tips whatsoever. None.

I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but I know a bunch of guys that use them with perfect success, so I don't know why you guys can't. I've used nothing but an XC and a F for profiling long enough to know that there are no issues. I'm very familiar with DMTs of any kind, and I'm very persnickety.

All I can say is that i would have been fooling around going through several EP120s in the same length of time. It would be pretty hard to make the decision based on speculation. I was a naysayer at one time as well. Right up to the time I tried the XC. If something worked as well, I'd be using it.

Price doesn't make near the difference that performance does for me. My time is worth a good bit, but they aren't even that expensive either.

What is "too heavy" for you to deal with? I let them ride naturally. I'm only profiling. I've never heard anyone mention that one. Is your stroke too heavy to use polish tapes edge leading? Just sayin...
 
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i already support the weight of the EP eze lap diamond stones and polish tapes. no i don't have any problem with polish tapes to relieve pressure but i just found out i got a better final edge this way.

please it's not because something already works good that we can't try to get something better ...
 
grizzled gizzard said:
Interesting theories. Ever tried it? I've been using mine for a couple of years. They work great for me. No noticeable diamond wear. Knives get profiled in no time, without nasty slurry, I may add. I have no trouble with tips whatsoever. None.

I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but I know a bunch of guys that use them with perfect success, so I don't know why you guys can't. I've used nothing but an XC and a F for profiling long enough to know that there are no issues. I'm very familiar with DMTs of any kind, and I'm very persnickety.

All I can say is that i would have been fooling around going through several EP120s in the same length of time. It would be pretty hard to make the decision based on speculation. I was a naysayer at one time as well. Right up to the time I tried the XC. If something worked as well, I'd be using it.

Price doesn't make near the difference that performance does for me. My time is worth a good bit, but they aren't even that expensive either.

What is "too heavy" for you to deal with? I let them ride naturally. I'm only profiling. I've never heard anyone mention that one. Is your stroke too heavy to use polish tapes edge leading? Just sayin...
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Some may like to use force with the water stone and if they keep the same method with the diamonds then there could be a issue. Use of pressure with diamond stone will effect scratch pattern and edge quality too so it's not a "don't use'em they won't work" its simply food for thought. Not everyone knows the proper use and care of all types of stones.
 
Gotcha! Thanks Knifenut, I misunderstood. I appreciate the kind response.

It took a while to convince me they were the ticket, but you are exactly right. Used properly, they're like a sore peter, ya can't beat it.
 
I just spoke with a marketing rep from DMT. No promises were forthcoming, but there was definite interest. :thumbup:
 
grizzled gizzard said:
Interesting theories. Ever tried it? I've been using mine for a couple of years. They work great for me. No noticeable diamond wear. Knives get profiled in no time, without nasty slurry, I may add. I have no trouble with tips whatsoever. None.
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That is good to hear. I'd like to make my DMT last as long as possible.

grizzled gizzard said:
What is "too heavy" for you to deal with? I let them ride naturally. I'm only profiling. I've never heard anyone mention that one. Is your stroke too heavy to use polish tapes edge leading? Just sayin...
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It is a bit heavy but If you have been using yours for years, then you have probably developed a good technique. At least I know that it can be done so I won't lose heart because I now know that somebody else has done it before me.
 
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