New survivalist! HELP!

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Hey everyone. I am new to wilderness survival and would like some tips on a good place to start. What should I learn first? I have always been an outdoorsman. Hiking, camping, fishing, boating and hunting have long been some of my favorite pastimes. But I have always had the outlook that taking a but load of supplies (tent, sleeping bag, utensiles,food, water, matches ect...) ment being prepared. Now I am realizing that taking the knowledge and skills to survive with the bare minimum are my number one supplies. I wil be very appreciative of any advice or tips from the very knowledgeable and skilled people on this forum. THANK YOU in advance. i am very excited to get started.
 
Welcome!

You're on the right track, skills and knowledge are #1. I'd just start reading as much information as you can find. WS&S forum here, other places on the net, youtube videos, books, etc.

I've always seen people talk about the SAS Survival Handbook by John Wiseman. I'd like to get a copy myself.

Take your time, learn new things and theories, then TRY them. Fire, shelter building, water collection and purification, bushcrafting skills, etc.
 
As Adam mentioned the "Lofty" Wiseman has some great books. I also recommend Myke Hawke's book. Additionally try to get as much medical/first aid training you can. Outdoor skills are great but a true survival situation often is a medical situation as well. Something that I am brushing up on is land navigation skills. Good luck
 
I'd start the way you are - gather as much info as you can.
the ESEE website has electronic copies of several good articles as well, some with diagrams - like making a trap.
learning how to harvest local materials to make fire - with or without matches or lighter is a good start, and can be practiced at home.
shelter building is another good one -- check the thread on debris shelters from December.
also - you mind is your most precious resource in the woods -- with practice and knowledge, you can survive with pretty much any knife. some just make it a bit easier than others.
good luck and welcome to the forum!
 
another good idea... take a pack full of food and water...go out in the woods, and try not to use any of it. You learn to find and survive, but have a back up at hand in case you wind up in over your head.
 
I'll also reccomend the SAS Survival handbook. Lots of illustrations and easy to locate specific things you want to learn about.

The newest edition is the best one to get (obviously); I think the little survival stories throughout the book were added in this newest edition.

There's also a small paperback version of the SAS handbook which is worth getting also just for the portability of it.
 
As I said in the WSS forum, survival isn't necessarily as much a skill or gear as it is a mindset, the will to survive. Skills knowledge and practice are moreso a necessity than gear. It would definately help to have someone in your area who is into survival and bushcraft as well, so they can show you the ropes and get feed off of each others' ideas. Get a good survival manual, such as the Air Force SERE guide. I also like reading books about people in crazy survival situations, it helps fuel my resolve-if other people could have survived those situations, I can too. 'Alive' is an excellent example.
Some important skills are:

Firecraft. Knowing good fuel sources, IE wood types, natural kindling etc, and being able to start a fire with a flame source such as a match or a lighter. Then, move on to using a fire steel, and then finally making your own bow or hand drill kit and get proficient at using it.

Woodcraft and whittling. Learn the characteristics of woody plants in your area and how you can use them for shelter building, tools, trap making, etc. Learn how to use simple tools such as a knife, machete, axe etc to manipulate wood proficiently and safely.

Linework. Learn your knots! there are a plethora of good knots guides out there and most are inexpensive. Learn them so well you can do them with your eyes closed, so that you won't have to even think about which knot to use or how to do it when you're in the bush. 10 minutes a night in front of youtube watching demonstrations with two small pieces of rope will go a LONG way. This also includes sewing. Sewing is a very basic exercise that is good for just about everything-repairing your clothes, pack, shelter, etc, and even stitching up a laceration. There are a few simple stitches you should learn that you'll find in most survival manuals.

Traps and Snares. Learn how to manipulate steel or copper wire, or even small line, to build effective snares for small animals in your environment. Learn how to build simple traps such as deadfalls/figure 4's/baiting holes etc.

Shelter building. Learn various simple shelter designs and how you can make them from naturally occuring materials in your area. Any good survival manual should have a very detailed and comprehensive guide to constructing different shelter types.

First aid and hygeine. Learn how far you can push your body, and what the limits of human endurance are. Learn the dangers of exposure to the elements in your area-IE, dehydration, sunburn, frostbite, hypothermia, etc, and how to treat them. Also learn what can help prevent them-clothes design, materials etc, shelter insulation, naturally occuring remedies,

Vegitation. Plants are good for alot of things, such as weaving natural fibers into useable cordage, nutrition, medicating, etc. Become proficient at identifying useable plant life in your area.

Skinning and food prep. Learn how to proficiently skin large and small game so as to preserve its useable parts- the hide, the meat, the bones, etc. Animal bone can make very useful tools if you know how to work it, anything from a bow drill to a fish hook.

Navigation. Knowing where you are, where you are going, how to use a map, GPS, compass and improvised forms of navigation such as the stick-and-line technique.

Mobility. Walking is the simplest and most basic motion we as humans can perform, yet it boggles my mind how people do not know how to simply walk. They tire easily, complain of blisters and hot spots and callouses, do not know how to maintain their feet, do not know correct foot placement on various types of terrain. Their idea of practicing survival is pitching a tent out of the back of their pickup truck. If a natural disaster occurs, gas, vehicle maintenance, navigating jammed roads, etc will be simply impossible. A car isn't going to get you anywhere. Even bicycles, four wheelers and snowmobiles break down and run out of gas. There is one form of transportation you have to be able to rely on, and that is your legs. Put miles on-find a good trail system near you and become proficient at crossing various types of terrain expeditiously. Learn what footwear works best for you. I often go barefoot or wear no more than a pair of softsoled mocs, while others prefer heavy waterproof boots. Find yourself a decent pack that fits you well, distributes weight evenly over your shoulders, back and hips, and is organized well. There are alot of great packs out there ranging from 30 bucks to 1000. Learn how to treat and prevent blisters, and how to apply moleskin.

Tracking. Tracking is considered a more advanced survival skill but it has MANY uses. The funny part is it requires simple knowledge and basic logic and reasoning skills. It boggles my mind how people can't put 1 and 1 together sometimes. Tracking both animals and humans can help you cover your tracks, avoid observation, avoid capture, and vice versa help you find and capture. It's a very handy skill when it comes to placing traps and snares, and hunting.

These are some techniques I'd learn. There are many others, based on your environment and physical ability there are endless amounts of skills that can be applied to survival. It takes time-everything does. It's definately a commitment to pack all this stuff into your brain and get it down to muscle memory. But it's one hell of a past time that I find very rewarding, and will one day I guarantee you will find a practical necessary use for these skills that may save not only your life, but the lives of other people as well.
 
You can read lots of books, watch videos, and even see in-person demonstrations.

There is NO substitute for "dirt time" however. You will need to go through your own trial & error process - it is easier with a coach/mentor/instructor to correct technique, too.

Do some homework - the web and your local library have lots of useful resources - if you read 10 books you will find 10 different ways to do something, sometimes, but there is also a lot of "practical plagiarism" in the art/science of bushcraft and survival, since there are only so many variations of a bow drill, for instance... it sort of "is what it is."

I'm looking to start up a "dirt time" group in my area - not a club - no dues or anything - but a bunch of people to get together and share ideas, techniques and teach each other a thing or two. Sort of a mini PWYP (Practice What You Preach) gathering. There is no reason you can't hook up with some other people in your area to share knowledge.
 
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Payette has a great post.

Think of priorities, i.e. the rule of threes:
3 seconds without ammo -- more for a military situation
3 minutes without air -- not a lot you can do here
3 hours without shelter
3 days without water
3 weeks without food

So, you probably won't need ammo, and there's not much you can do if you're in a situation with no air.

So, the thing that will kill you quickest is exposure. So, IMO concentrate on your fire building and shelter building skills. Then your water skills (mostly on finding it -- boiling and/or purification tablets are the only things that really purify water).

Some resources:
The SAS Survival Handbook -- get the full size one, it has all the pictures in it. You can get the compact one later once you've got some practice in.
Six Ways In, Twelve Ways Out from US RSOG

I'd get both of the above books. They both cover the same material, but in many cases approach it with a different solution. More options = better.


Subscriptions to:
Backwoodsman Magazine
Wilderness Way Magazine
Survival Quarterly

Sometimes Primitive Archer has good survival related stuff not only archery related.

I'd also go to Hood's Woods and order some of Ron Hood's DVDs. At least get his 6 for the price of 5 deal and get Woodsmaster 1-5 (Vol 1 Spark Based Firemaking, Vol 2 Shelter and Priorities, Vol 3 Survival Kits, Vol 4 Travel and Navigation, Vol 5 Traps and Trapping, and Vol 11 - Solo Survival Skills). Get all of them if you can afford it.
Other than someone there actually teaching, this is the best way to go. You can see him demonstrate skills, take notes while you watch, go outside and practice the skill. If you have problems, takes note of the problem, and go back in and watch it again.



Oh, and despite what you might hear on some internet forums, gear is important. But what you choose is important. With the right gear, you don't need to carry a lot of it.

Welcome to the sickness!
 
How to Stay Alive in the Woods Author: Bradford Angier one of my favs....
One of many great book and Magazine wise several to choose from Backwoodsman Magazine
Wilderness Way Magazine and some older copies of ASG are keepers.
you can also buy Best of backwoodsman vol.1-3 and full of great ideas and things...

Ron Hood's DVD are sweet & Lofty has one now that is informative .

but having the free time to practice is key...... mistakes in a controlled atmosphere & practicing is better than a real life oopsy
 
Thanks alot guys. I am assumming from these posts that finding/making shelter would be my first priority followed by building a fire. Then I could take the time to plan for navigation and finding water and food sources. From the advice ya'll are giving that seems to be a good starting point to keep me busy for a while. feel free to add more to this thread and offer constructive critasism on my thoughts as I will be keeping you updated on my thought process and activaties.
 
Step 1. Buy a knife, machete, compass and water bottle.

Step 2. Go to an ESEE class to learn how to use the above+the survival kit they give you.

You will learn how to do things because you will be forced to practice. You will learn what gear works and what doesn't. And you will have the confidence that you survived a night or two with nothing. (Assuming you actually survive :) )


You are in the same boat I was. I've hiked many parts of the AT, gone camping, hiking, hunting, etc for days at a time. But with my gear, it was no different than being in the backyard. I went to Jeff's class and learned if I don't have that stuff, I won't panic. Matter of fact, I'll get along just fine.
 
+1 on both Payette's and Cpl Punishments notes.

Without the will to survive it doesn't matter how "good" your gear is. Learn how to use what ever you have, implementation, desire, and hope go along way.

I fall under the belief that fire and shelter are your first two priorities. The shelter probably the most critical in regards to environmental exposure. The fire comes next because of its ability to give you a feeling of safety. Also it is the best way to be found/spotted when lost and can be instrumental in surviving.

First Aid is another critical skill everyone must have some of, take a first aid course at a community college or adult center if you can.

The other point I like to make is learn to be redundant when learning your skills, chances are one system will fail, having a back up is important.

Remember, Two is One, One is None.

Lastly, reading only gets you so far, go out and practice, try and get your friends out and practice with them. People, (for the most part), like doing things outside, enjoy.

Good luck, seems your on the right track.

Mike
 
I agree with the above post because i just finished reading SURVIVE by Les Stroud. It is a GREAT intro book and i've been through several survival courses as well.

Some people hate him some people love him but I can say I'm a fan of Nutnfancy on youtube. He has some good knowledge and information on gear for survival, first aid and backpacking.

Green
 
Hey everyone. I am new to wilderness survival and would like some tips on a good place to start. What should I learn first? I have always been an outdoorsman. Hiking, camping, fishing, boating and hunting have long been some of my favorite pastimes. But I have always had the outlook that taking a but load of supplies (tent, sleeping bag, utensiles,food, water, matches ect...) ment being prepared. Now I am realizing that taking the knowledge and skills to survive with the bare minimum are my number one supplies. I wil be very appreciative of any advice or tips from the very knowledgeable and skilled people on this forum. THANK YOU in advance. i am very excited to get started.

A broad study is good, but I'd also suggest you study the natural materials that work well for things in your area....what woods do you have that make the best hearth boards and spindles, what materials for natural cordage are around you, is chert or flint available in your area, bamboo? Try to learn from the area you live in, and people who know something about it, and then branch out from there. What area of the country are you in?
 
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