Looks like Victorinox is going to market what can only be called a multitool as the new model or models won't have a blade due to knife restrictions in some places where knives are seen as weapons rather than tools.
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New Swiss army "knife" won't have a blade
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NapalmCheese
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If they came up with something without a blade with a hidden radiographic signature such that the TSA could see it when going through the machine but still had scissors, a cap lifter, and screwdrivers I'd be all for it.
I've had a leatherman that was TSA okay but it was overly scrutinized every time I flew with it and eventually taken by the TSA anyway.
I've had a leatherman that was TSA okay but it was overly scrutinized every time I flew with it and eventually taken by the TSA anyway.
Swiss army.. tool? Can't call it a SAK at that point, and they already tried that with the jetsetter
Ultimately useless IMO and has been discontinued. Never once saw one while I'm tsa. It's gonna be a SLOWW sell.. I don't see why anyone would need to fiddle with a knifeless pocket tool while sitting on a plane. I think it's going to die horribly as an idea. I hope they ask their customers what they think first...
They will be "complimenting the existing range of multi-tools rather than replacing them" --- yes you will, otherwise you'd close the F%$^ down if you took away the blade from every model
Ultimately useless IMO and has been discontinued. Never once saw one while I'm tsa. It's gonna be a SLOWW sell.. I don't see why anyone would need to fiddle with a knifeless pocket tool while sitting on a plane. I think it's going to die horribly as an idea. I hope they ask their customers what they think first...
They will be "complimenting the existing range of multi-tools rather than replacing them" --- yes you will, otherwise you'd close the F%$^ down if you took away the blade from every model
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Yeah, TSA has a CYA clause that the final decision lies with the agent. So, don't expect logic or common sense to be used. I got hassled by a new agent over a Gerber Dime (TSA approved!) that lacked a blade. The agent was overruled by his manger, but the manger said it was up to the say of the agent usually.
Cya is big for tsa because regularly flying passengers constantly pull the wool over their eyes and snitch and "karen" whenever possible, their aim to get tsa agents in trouble within their field of vision. Not to derail the thread, but tsa was #2 on the most hated jobs, and replaced dmv workers, now people who work in tsa are the most hated. It's flattering honestly, however without tsa stopping dangerous items, would anyone risk flying in a plane? And we all know knife restrictions don't restrict criminals..
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This is why you don't give them an inch. Brits were done when they gave up their guns.
Knife related, do they get to keep their name? Knife is the third letter I thought
Knife related, do they get to keep their name? Knife is the third letter I thought
And it didn't change things worth a darn. The article mentioned the British government and the prevalence of knife crime there
They're using KITCHEN knives
So all of this is other silly stuff is largely invalid. You can find kitchen knives anywhere and everywhere, including at dollar stores, 6 for 1.25. So attacking all this other stuff isn't doing anything
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Utter B.S.......
I didn't see any mention of the TSA in that article. Nor any mention of the new product being designed for carry on planes. In fact, I saw no reference to the US at all.
The article did specifically say that the new line of products are for countries where carrying a knife is illegal (they specifically mentioned Britain and countries in Asia).
It makes perfect sense to me that Victorinox would design such a product. After all, they're in business to make money. And even if a person can't carry a knife, they might still want to carry a tool that can serve a variety of other purposes. And Victorinox wants to be the company to sell them those tools.
The article did specifically say that the new line of products are for countries where carrying a knife is illegal (they specifically mentioned Britain and countries in Asia).
It makes perfect sense to me that Victorinox would design such a product. After all, they're in business to make money. And even if a person can't carry a knife, they might still want to carry a tool that can serve a variety of other purposes. And Victorinox wants to be the company to sell them those tools.
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Maybe I'm crazy, but I feel like the portion of TSA's restrictions that most of us care about don't actually exist to stop dangerous items. Stopping bombs? Yes. But they allow way more dangerous items than a pocket knife regularly. Laptops and iPads with glass screens. Large dogs and other trainable animals labeled as "emotional support animals". Heavy metal water bottles. Mike Tyson. Other large men. Heck, what's more dangerous, an attack pittbull or a pocket knife? Which one is allowed on a plane? It's stupid.
I believe the real reason for many of the restrictions is simply to make people feel better, not to make things any safer. As an anecdote, I once went through security with live rounds of .22lr ammunition accidentally left in the bottom of my bag and nothing was said. And then they took my wallet tool (shaped like a credit card with a screwdriver and hex wrenches on it).
Youre right.
It did mention those countries yes, I have no working knowledge of the politics or problems in Asian countries, but I'm well aware of Britain's laws and regulations surrounding this
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True. My comment was for Americans who might attempt buying one thinking they are following the TSA rules, only to find out the rules change based on the agent.
Good on Victorinox for providing something for those people under even more severe conditions.
Despite the rules and regulations I think ultimately we'll find that people are people and despite the laws they will carry nonetheless because their safety is more important than other people's 'laws' for you
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Not to mention, anyone can literally use a sharpened stick.
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Swiss army.. tool? Can't call it a SAK at that point, and they already tried that with the jetsetter
Ultimately useless IMO and has been discontinued. Never once saw one while I'm tsa. It's gonna be a SLOWW sell.. I don't see why anyone would need to fiddle with a knifeless pocket tool while sitting on a plane. I think it's going to die horribly as an idea. I hope they ask their customers what they think first...
They will be "complimenting the existing range of multi-tools rather than replacing them" --- yes you will, otherwise you'd close the F%$^ down if you took away the blade from every model
It's not about fiddling with a multi tool while on the flight, it's about having some sort of tools available to you at your destination when you choose (as lots of experienced and frequent fliers choose) to travel all carry on.
No, Victorinox is not doing this for TSA approval, but if they could do something to allow me to easily carry a multi tool through an American airport I'd like that.
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I agree . This is not a knife co. problem .
It's an overreaching government regulation problem !
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