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zignal_zero

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i have a bad case of "NSF" and am a little confused over what to get.

i love the Rodent Waki because it looks capable of taking alot of abuse.

would the spring steel Paul Chens be as tough? i'm really looking for a sword you can do (somewhat) stupid things with and not damage. i have a full size katana, now, that has a slight curve in the blade. i never really eyeballed the spine when it was new. so, i'm not sure if it's a factory defect or if it was something i caused by striking things not typically cut with swords. i'm guessing i did it :mad:

i can not afford a Busse AK47. what other options are there for a no BS durable short sword, priced comparable (or less) than a Rodent?
 
GRIM 62 said:
Get the Rodent!
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is it too late? i know he closed the "pre-orders", but i'm a little confused as to what "pre-orders" are. is it the ability to order them before anyonelse, as in "pre-production" or was that the one and only time he's is going to offer them?

aslo, on the RatChat, it seems like Busse and Swamp Rat are always referred to like they are the same. what is the connection between them?

thanx.

and YEA, i'm really leaning towards the Rodent, if it's still avaivable after i pay for Xmas :(
 
DrivebyTrucker said:
Maybe the cold steel warrior series. I'm thinking of picking one up.
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yea i had thought of those, too. i was also thinking the Paul Chen's in the 9260 (through hardened) might be really durable. but it's hard to picture either of them standing up to what i saw in the Rodent video. which really excited me cuz i LOVE whackin trees :D

i missed the "pre-order" which i stil don't really understand. i guess i'll just wait to see what becomes available.

i still think it's a strange that it's called a Waki, though. it seems really different (in an awesome way) from any wakizashi i've seen. if it could be catagorized, it seems like it would be a ninjato, no? not that it can be catagorized, it's kind of it's own catagory :)
 
i'm really looking for a sword you can do (somewhat) stupid things with and not damage

Thats a bit of an oxymoron, if you're going to be doing stupid things with a tool expect it to break-or it to break you:eek:
it's like trying to take a corner at 90mph in a lifted 4x4, or drive offroad in a ferrari.
 
SShepherd said:
i'm really looking for a sword you can do (somewhat) stupid things with and not damage

Thats a bit of an oxymoron, if you're going to be doing stupid things with a tool expect it to break-or it to break you:eek:
it's like trying to take a corner at 90mph in a lifted 4x4, or drive offroad in a ferrari.
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i dunno, man, when they post a video of trees being chopped down with a SWORD they warrantee for life.... kinda feels like a green light to me.

i'm not looking for a pry bar or something to beat on the concrete, but you hear so much about "bad form" causing bent blades. i'm looking for something you can go primal with and not destroy. i chop alot stuff up, not just pool noodles and other acceptable targets. i want a sword that can keep up and the Waki really looks like it would. i just want to know if there is anythingelse that capable/durable.
 
zignal_zero said:
would the spring steel Paul Chens be as tough?
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No.

The rodent was made with the expectation that people would be smacking it full force into trees and cinder blocks and crap like that. The Paul Chens are not made with this design philosophy.


HI is a good choice. For a more traditional katana shape Cheness has a good reputation.


Justin from Ranger Knives is well known for doing affordable customs- he could probably make you a great piece for less than the cost of the rodent.
 
thanks alot, guys.

gotta half a game plan, now - wait to see whatelse comes from S.R.K., go with the H.I. (looked at em, seem pretty cool), or get ahold of Justin from Ranger Knives. thanks for all the help, the confusion is lessening :-)
 
For a piece that'll take abuse, check out the new Hanwei Raptor series. They were designed for it.

I'd stay away from the CS katanas...they often have cracked tsukas, which can make them a bit dangerous! :eek: What's the point of making a strong blade if the handle is weak? :confused:
 
FortyTwoBlades said:
For a piece that'll take abuse, check out the new Hanwei Raptor series. They were designed for it.
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They were designed for cutting , and to be forgiving of blown cuts, and not bending.

There are NO traditionally mounted Japanese style blades that will take stupid....the Japanese did not account for stupid.

Jerry Busse and Co. not only accounts for stupid, they welcome it with open arms.....but "designed for stupid" swords do not cut/slice as well as the Raptor series....they hack and chop MUCH better.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
On the Himalayan Imports board there's a Long Tibetan sword for sale under the 11/19 deals thread.
 
zignal_zero said:
i have a full size katana, now, that has a slight curve in the blade. i never really eyeballed the spine when it was new. so, i'm not sure if it's a factory defect or if it was something i caused by striking things not typically cut with swords. i'm guessing i did it
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I believe this is referred to as torqueing the blade. It happens when you use a long sword blade to wack large trees with. (sadly it's true that most swords just weren't made to do that stuff)

I understand your enthusiasm for wacking things with swords though, I've done it plenty too! ...You can try straitening your blade by simply flexing it in the opposite direction of the curve, using a good amount of pressure until it's strait again.
-I've done it and it worked fine for me, though you may want to tape the edge for a bit of safety! (and yes I know the irony of talking safety after using swords on trees)

+1 on the Rodent Waki! I'm not sure about the pre-ordering stuff either, but I just ordered an unused one from a forum member here. -it cost me a few dollars more, but I won't have to wait long to get it! :)

Anyway, Keep on choppin stuff!! -I know I will:D
 
Kohai999 said:
They were designed for cutting , and to be forgiving of blown cuts, and not bending.

There are NO traditionally mounted Japanese style blades that will take stupid....the Japanese did not account for stupid.

Jerry Busse and Co. not only accounts for stupid, they welcome it with open arms.....but "designed for stupid" swords do not cut/slice as well as the Raptor series....they hack and chop MUCH better.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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Oh no doubt. This was more in reference to the comment someone made that Hanwei pieces wouldn't hold up...and then recommended Cheness. :p

James Williams told me he's presently using a Raptor for doing all of his pig cutting these days. :thumbup: But yeah, the Japanese didn't "do stupid" :D
 
...sometimes stupid is fun ...he he ...at least until your loosing blood that is.
 
BryFry said:
I believe this is referred to as torqueing the blade. It happens when you use a long sword blade to wack large trees with. (sadly it's true that most swords just weren't made to do that stuff)

I understand your enthusiasm for wacking things with swords though, I've done it plenty too! ...You can try straitening your blade by simply flexing it in the opposite direction of the curve, using a good amount of pressure until it's strait again.
-I've done it and it worked fine for me, though you may want to tape the edge for a bit of safety! (and yes I know the irony of talking safety after using swords on trees)

+1 on the Rodent Waki! I'm not sure about the pre-ordering stuff either, but I just ordered an unused one from a forum member here. -it cost me a few dollars more, but I won't have to wait long to get it! :)

Anyway, Keep on choppin stuff!! -I know I will:D
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cool, glad to see i'm not alone in my fight against the forest LOL

yea, this thread has helped me to understand - i'm not really looking for a piece of equipment that can endure abuse. i'm looking for a "dual purpose" piece of equipment. i'm willing to make a sacrifice in cuttng efficiency to gain some "hackability".

i looked at the Ranger Knives. i really liked them, when i get some funds, i'll definately ask if he can make something similiar to the Waki.
 
Kohai999 said:
They were designed for cutting , and to be forgiving of blown cuts, and not bending.

There are NO traditionally mounted Japanese style blades that will take stupid....the Japanese did not account for stupid.

Jerry Busse and Co. not only accounts for stupid, they welcome it with open arms.....but "designed for stupid" swords do not cut/slice as well as the Raptor series....they hack and chop MUCH better.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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Here's a miscut with a Busse AK-47. It suffered no ill effects at all.

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Hey Ted,

Am I seeing the photo correctly in that there is two definitive flex points as the wood is struck, towards the handle and towards the tip?
 
moblues said:
Hey Ted,

Am I seeing the photo correctly in that there is two definitive flex points as the wood is struck, towards the handle and towards the tip?
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Yeah, it looks like an S that is flattened out. Of couse, I could not really see this in person.
 
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