New to folding knife world... where do I start?

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Hey everyone,

I've recently gained quite a bit of interest in purchasing a decent folding knife. I've done some research on EDC/camping knives, materials of blades, handles, and makes, etc. So here's a quite breakdown for what i'm looking for:
- Price: Below $50
- Folding knife for EDC/Camping
- Blade material probably either stainless or high carbon (as opposed to ceramic)
- Preference of sharpness over power
- No serration
- Assist: no preference
- Kershaw Leek has caught my eye for its simplicity and price but im wondering if there is anything that would better fit my scope for the price

I'm open to any and all recommendations, any make, US or over-seas, doesnt matter to me.

AND: I would also be looking for a decent knife sharpener (less than $30)

Thank you,
Zach
 
Spyderco Tenacious
Kershaws
RAT 1

Spend the money and get a sharpmaker
 
I'll throw out the recommendation of the G10 version of the Kershaw Cryo. And definitely spend the extra money and get a Sharpmaker.
 
I think a RAT 1 would be your best bet for all-around <$50. Kershaw skyline and tenacious are both good for EDC. Spyderco dragonfly in H1 is rust-proof and awesome for EDC/small back-up knife. You may also be able to still find one in Super blue steel.
 
The Cold Steel Voyager series is difficult to beat for the price. In the sub-$50 category, the pickings are somewhat slim. In addition to the Voyager, consider the Spyderco Tenacious, RAT 1, and Kershaw Skyline. I prefer the Voyager to all of those offerings due to its increased lock strength and size.

I suggest a Spyderco sharpmaker for a sharpening system. Very simple to use and effective results. The sharpener will probably last much longer than your first knife.
 
I'll just throw the Utilitac II in the mix. Lots of knife for the money, variations to fit almost every taste and quite sturdy!
 
Thanks everyone for your recommendations. As far as blade material goes... I am not sure about how each compares. I see 14C28N, 8Cr14MoV, 154CM, S30V, etc. I dont which which is better than the others... maybe someone would order them from best to worst? I do notice however that it seems like S30V is most popular among the more expensive models?
 
I would rank them S30V, 154cm, 14C28N, then 8Cr14Mov. Doubt you will find any S30V or 154 cm in a knife under $50. 14C28N is a great budget steel though, and Cold Steel does a nice Aus8.
 
The more expensive steels (S30V) will hold an edge much longer, but are also that much harder to sharpen, which is important to keep in mind if you are just getting started sharpening. The Sharpmaker will certainly be a big help.
 
I was going to suggest a Leek to start with....good call!

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Personally I think the Spyderco Tenacious is hands down the best place to start. It's a quality construction and it's 8cr13mov flat ground blade is perfect to develope your sharpening skills.

Speaking about sharpening I'd also recommend the sharpmaker and if that's truly over budget just get a Lansky system.
 
Get a sharpmaker! If I was on a budget I would rather have a $30 folder and a sharpmaker than a $50 folder and a cheaper sharpening system. The sharpmaker is a great system for the money and will give you a lifetime of valuable service. It's not a coincidence that everyone is recommending you get one. :)
 
Since you are new to the knife world, the good news is, you really can't go wrong.
Any of the previously suggested knives is going to be great for you. If nothing else, it will serve as a base reference point for what you're looking for in a knife, your likes / dislikes, etc.

I was in your same position not too long ago, and now I have the knife fever bad :P
So hang in there and learn as much as you can. And a Tenacious is a great start
 
Another vote for a Kershaw Leek and a Spyderco Sharpmaker.

I like the liner lock Leeks better than the framelock version. They're a little thicker, but still very thin, and they're lighter. The aluminum scales are nicely finished and they can be found in many different colors. I really like the new Teal color. 14c28n is a Swedish steel made by Sandvik. It takes a very fine edge and is very easy to touch up when needed. It's similar to the American 154CM made by Crucible.

Look up Nutnfancy on YouTube. He has a lot of great reviews of folding knives (He's a little full of himself on other topics, but I like his knife reviews). Overall his videos are a good source of information.
 
I'm new myself, but have had the kershaw leek for my EDC for a couple years now. I love the slim profile in the pocket, and the assisted open is nice for one handed use. Especially lately as I use it to cut plastic straps out of the tray line at work. I am debating looking for a higher end EDC, but reading this thread the sharpmaker may have to be my next purchase.
 
Hey everyone,

I've recently gained quite a bit of interest in purchasing a decent folding knife. I've done some research on EDC/camping knives, materials of blades, handles, and makes, etc. So here's a quite breakdown for what i'm looking for:
- Price: Below $50
- Folding knife for EDC/Camping
- Blade material probably either stainless or high carbon (as opposed to ceramic)
- Preference of sharpness over power
- No serration
- Assist: no preference
- Kershaw Leek has caught my eye for its simplicity and price but im wondering if there is anything that would better fit my scope for the price

I'm open to any and all recommendations, any make, US or over-seas, doesnt matter to me.

AND: I would also be looking for a decent knife sharpener (less than $30)

Thank you,
Zach

With the "Preference for sharpness over power" to me that says you want something with proper blade geometry so you can cut things easier as you can always sharpen a knife to get stupidly sharp no matter how dull it was. It's hard to beat an Opinel for that, get an Opinel #6 or higher so you have a locking mechanism on it. Either carbon steel or stainless, they are both good for this knife. Nothing spectacular but it gets the job done and their pretty comparable in real world performance with the carbon steel taking less time to sharpen than the stainless and being more prone to rust.

Other option is a swiss army knife, preferably victorinox as I've had better luck with them and they always came sharp compared to my wenger which was as dull as a butter knife and required some work. If you want something for EDC and camping I think a Victorinox Famer, Pioneer, or Cadet would suit your needs quite well here and still remain slim to make pocket carry comfortable.

Another good option is to look at the other traditional slip joints, and I am thinking a stockman pattern knife would fit well in this regard as they typically have 3 blades and you can use the blade that suit your task the best. There are a lot of good brands in this regard but honestly I would say go with a USA made Buck, off hand they should be the Buck 301, 303 and they are made out of 420HC but they have a superb heat treat to them and are built like tanks. The model numbers that start with 37 such as 373 are made in china and made with the inferior 420j2, I'd personally avoid those but be warn a lot of sites mislable those knives as having the 420hc it doesn't you can confirm it on the Buck website.

These are the recommendations I have as they are the ones that came to my head with what should give you an easy time cutting with. If you stop and think about it cutting things with a knife isn't just about how sharp you can get a knife but also about the blade geometry and driving a sliver of metal designed to cut is a lot easier to cut with than a large chunk of metal designed for the same thing.

Try not to get wrapped up in what knives have what steel. I would argue blade geometry is more important than that. Doesn't matter if a knife is made out of the greatest steel known to man if it's not designed to cut as well as whats in your pocket it probably has no right replacing it in my book as long as what you currently have can get the job done. It is also made quite a bit more pointless once you start trying to master the art of sharpening than you realize that you don't need much to sharpen a knife and the bottom of a coffee mug can do the trick, cardboard, car window, etc to quickly bring back the edge if you really had to so the "just in case" argument gets thrown out the window. Not to mention how easy it is to bring back a knife to being extremely sharp with a quick strop if your at home, it took me about 30seconds if that on my last knife.

Than for a sharpener as others suggested a sharpmaker may be one of the better bets. Partially for the ease of use and getting a good product but I've also heard the included DVD has some good information in it and knowledge is quite a powerful thing to have when it comes to sharpening. If you go this route get the diamond rods before the UF rods to make reprofiling the blade to match your sharpmaker easier. And mark up the bevel with a sharpie to make sure your hitting the bevel. If your not you need to reprofile it to match the angles or prop up one side to match your angles, or adjust the knife in your hand to match sharpmaker. (Though that knowledge and more on how to sharpen is easily available on the maintenance sub-forum, especially if you ask for help.)

If I were in your shoes I probably go with a Victorinox Farmer/Pioneer/Cadet as it be the most versatile for EDC/Camping. Don't underestimate the steel in those knives they may not hold an edge as well as the newer stuff but the edge can be brought back without even trying. I swear my swiss army knives get scared sharp if I so much as look at them funny with a sharpening stone in hand. And just like the opinel they can still out cut a lot of the newer overbuilt folders even when their dull just by the blade geometry.

Wish I could recommend you a one handed folder but off hand I don't own any that matches my swiss army knives or opinels in ease of cutting things up or come even close.
 
My choices would be...
-Spyderco Delica or Endura, standard model in VG-10 steel
-Benchmade Griptilian or Mini Griptilian
-Kershaw Leek in CPM-S30V steel (even better if you can find a Random Leek model)
-Kershaw Blur
-Kershaw Skyline
-Kershaw Knockout

Some of these you would need to buy used to stay in budget. My personal preference is that a used (and cared for) higher-end knife is better than a new entry-level one. For example, I really do like the Spyderco Tenacious, but the VG-10 steel on the Delica and Endura is an improvement in terms of edge retention.



As for Sharpeners, spend a few bucks more for the Spyderco SharpMaker. It's a dramatic improvement over most everything else anywhere near that price range.
 
I agree with Bob6794 100%. Opinel is a fantastic knife that gets sharp easily. Great to learn how to sharpen on as well.
 
Get a sharpmaker! If I was on a budget I would rather have a $30 folder and a sharpmaker than a $50 folder and a cheaper sharpening system. The sharpmaker is a great system for the money and will give you a lifetime of valuable service. It's not a coincidence that everyone is recommending you get one. :)
Good advice.
 
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