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Hello all,
A little about myself

I am a wildland fire fighter, avid hunter and am always taking trips into the field on survival trips for practice

I have bee practicing on my own for some 25 years on and off, I sure hope there are some on here that can give me some new information because I don't think a person can learn enough in this world

I have gotten myself weened down to a day bag for five to ten days and during bow season I don't take a sleeping bag or tent with me.

I have stayed out in the mountains in 18" of snow with no bag or tent, and am currently waiting until after fire season to take a 55 mile cross country trip into the Rockies with no food, water tent or bag.

I love this stuff and don't seem to run into very many people who are really interested in these types of hunting tactics...

Russ...
 
You have EXPERIENCE and that's what really counts. Actually having the skills it takes to live with little is the key! I'd say you'll be able to teach most of us a thing or two because you've 'been there!'

There are a few other forums you'd probably enjoy visiting as well...

http://pub35.ezboard.com/bplainsmanscabin.html

http://www.northlandphoto.com/campfire/

http://www.knifeforums.com/ubbthreads/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=UBB42

http://www.equipped.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php

http://www.survival.com/IVB/
 
Elkchsr said:
I love this stuff and don't seem to run into very many people who are really interested in these types of hunting tactics...
Russ...

Ok.. where do I sign up? :D I use to do things like this when I was in high school, but since then the navy, work and school have gotten in the way. Now I'm in florida.. where the "outdoors experiance" is limited to to pre-made camp grounds.

The only place I've seen where you can spend a day without seeing another human is the everglades, but they're covered by so many regulations, so many rules, laws, and protections, that I sometimes feel if I sneeze, I'll spend the weekend in jail with a $10,000 fine to pay. :barf: :confused:
 
Welcome, Russ.
There are many contributors to this forum who have wide experience in living in the wilderness under all sorts of conditions, and one thing that you will see constantly recurring is the statement:

"I didn't know that, please expand" or "tell me more"

And, you are right about ongoing learning. 30 years and counting, and I still learn something new every time I visit here.

I know absolutely nothing about survival living in the snow (hasn't snowed in Western Australia since the last Ice Age), and I would be very interested in how you go about it, and some of the tricks of the trade. ;)
 
Hey Russ, good to see you here. Hope to learn a whole bunch of stuff from ya, so get your fingers busy dude. :D
 
The only place I've seen where you can spend a day without seeing another human is the everglades,

To this I would say, read some of the Tom Brown books...

In these you will learn that it really doesn't matter where you are, you can escape into even the smallest environment, there are many "wild" environments that people over look and don't even know they are there...

Here is a little bit to get you started:

Find a quiet place in the back yard, lay down in the grass and look deep into your enviornment, not venturing out more than about five feet from where you are at, don't get caught up in any thing that is longer or bigger than a couple inches.

Look at the color of the dirt, which will become rocks inside of your circle, look at the colors paterns and textures, look at the insects and other misc bugs in your surroundings, look very close at them, their actions, and what they do in their interactions.

Look at all of the plant life and every thing it has to offer, along with all of the rotting and decaying material in your study area.

You need to spend a couple few hours a day in the same area, you will start to see things that you never knew existed.

This may sound a little silly, and even feel a little silly when you first start, but it really doesn't matter, this is a great experience and you don't have to travel any where to see untamed, untarnished life in all its flourishing glory...

I would really like to hear from any of you that have the courage to start with this excersise.

Over time, you should even be able to imagine yourself interacting with the wildlife and even understanding what it is all about...

One thing I can guarentee, if you start on this level and learn what you can, you will find a lot of corelations with the larger picture that every one else sees.

Thanks for the info Plainsman. I will look up the sites and maybe even start to get involved in them, but I am in the middle of collage, and fire season starts very soon, I will be able to get more time to get on them this fall after hunting season.

OK guys, I will get on here at least once a week, I used to do a quite a bit of survival stuff on Hunttalk.com, but I didn't get as much of an enthusiastic responce as I would have liked, I am on that board a lot under the same name, but don't post much in the survival section much.

I hope to bring what I can from here and every where else...

If you guys have any questions, please feel free to ask..

One thing I will let you know right off the bat, I am more of a traditionalist, I do take some modern conviniences, but I am not impressed by brand names, nor hype, I have found it is mostly a sales gimmik a waste of money, and most of you have every thing and more of what you need to do this.

I don't believe in being a survivalist (those who carry guns and go play in the woods like Rambo) most of those I have met have no back bone when it really comes to the nitty gritty and they can't really survive unless they have all of the conviniences of home strapped to them some where...

Just to let you guys know what some of my goals are in this with in the next few years.

To go into the field for extended trips with nothing but what I am wearing in any weather, I have another year before I will be at that point, I have a couple more things to work out and will be able to make it happen.

To give you an idea of what I am talking about, I right now can go out with nothing but a lighter ( I haven't practiced enough to feel comfortable yet with friction, but that is coming), and a little food to get started and a stainless steal cup.

I can show you how to find water in almost any environment, make cutting utinsils and traps for game.

Plus a few wild edibles that are every where and easy to find.

I love to share what I know and never belittle any one not look down on any one for asking questions, especially the kids...

Thanks again for the warm welcome...

Russ... :)
 
Elkchsr said:
Find a quiet place in the back yard, lay down in the grass and look deep into your enviornment, not venturing out more than about five feet from where you are at, don't get caught up in any thing that is longer or bigger than a couple inches.

Look at the color of the dirt, which will become rocks inside of your circle, look at the colors paterns and textures, look at the insects and other misc bugs in your surroundings, look very close at them, their actions, and what they do in their interactions.

Look at all of the plant life and every thing it has to offer, along with all of the rotting and decaying material in your study area.

My Dad taught me this exercise. He referred to it as "groveling" (because of the nose-in-the-dirt postition). Its a great exercise and looking back at it, had the added advantage of getting me out from under foot for a while.
 
Welcome Elk,

YOu have been reading Tom Browns books. Every survival minded person has their own ways. One persons way is not always in line with yours but could be as effective.

I teach survival and focus on educating the general public on modern survival methods. Not all people have the time or inclination to get in tune with their environment as you do.

There is nothing wrong with using modern tools to augment ones survival knowledge and giving them the best chance of getting out alive.

I get the feeling you maybe more focused on primitive living which is excellent but not always practical to teach to a newbies perspective.

Welcome to the forum I look forward to your posts.

Another well done survival forum.

http://www.swampratknifeworks.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum;f=11

Skam
 
wow you got a few on me i have done things like that but not to that extreme. no food.
 
Thanks for the welcome guys

I hope I didn't put myself off as an extremist, or looking down on any one elses forms or modes of teaching.

It is not what I meant in the least. I was only letting every one know where I am going with my practices. I do fully understand that it is by no means every one elses cup of tea and I can hang in the confines of what ever is dealt.

Please don't be offended at my manors, I re-read my post and it looked a little hard around the edges which is the farthes from what it was meant.

Pipes, Moosies is going great as usual, same old infighting, and happy back patting.

Learning is ongoing and new freinds are made every day.

I sure hope every one is having a great holiday weekend...

Russ... :)
 
Elkchsr said:
To this I would say, read some of the Tom Brown books...

In these you will learn that it really doesn't matter where you are, you can escape into even the smallest environment, there are many "wild" environments that people over look and don't even know they are there...

Here is a little bit to get you started:

Find a quiet place in the back yard, lay down in the grass and look deep into your enviornment, not venturing out more than about five feet from where you are at, don't get caught up in any thing that is longer or bigger than a couple inches.

Look at the color of the dirt, which will become rocks inside of your circle, look at the colors paterns and textures, look at the insects and other misc bugs in your surroundings, look very close at them, their actions, and what they do in their interactions.

Look at all of the plant life and every thing it has to offer, along with all of the rotting and decaying material in your study area.

You need to spend a couple few hours a day in the same area, you will start to see things that you never knew existed.

This may sound a little silly, and even feel a little silly when you first start, but it really doesn't matter, this is a great experience and you don't have to travel any where to see untamed, untarnished life in all its flourishing glory...

I would really like to hear from any of you that have the courage to start with this excersise.

Over time, you should even be able to imagine yourself interacting with the wildlife and even understanding what it is all about...

One thing I can guarentee, if you start on this level and learn what you can, you will find a lot of corelations with the larger picture that every one else sees.

Thanks for the info Plainsman. I will look up the sites and maybe even start to get involved in them, but I am in the middle of collage, and fire season starts very soon, I will be able to get more time to get on them this fall after hunting season.

OK guys, I will get on here at least once a week, I used to do a quite a bit of survival stuff on Hunttalk.com, but I didn't get as much of an enthusiastic responce as I would have liked, I am on that board a lot under the same name, but don't post much in the survival section much.

I hope to bring what I can from here and every where else...

If you guys have any questions, please feel free to ask..

One thing I will let you know right off the bat, I am more of a traditionalist, I do take some modern conviniences, but I am not impressed by brand names, nor hype, I have found it is mostly a sales gimmik a waste of money, and most of you have every thing and more of what you need to do this.

I don't believe in being a survivalist (those who carry guns and go play in the woods like Rambo) most of those I have met have no back bone when it really comes to the nitty gritty and they can't really survive unless they have all of the conviniences of home strapped to them some where...

Just to let you guys know what some of my goals are in this with in the next few years.

To go into the field for extended trips with nothing but what I am wearing in any weather, I have another year before I will be at that point, I have a couple more things to work out and will be able to make it happen.

To give you an idea of what I am talking about, I right now can go out with nothing but a lighter ( I haven't practiced enough to feel comfortable yet with friction, but that is coming), and a little food to get started and a stainless steal cup.

I can show you how to find water in almost any environment, make cutting utinsils and traps for game.

Plus a few wild edibles that are every where and easy to find.

I love to share what I know and never belittle any one not look down on any one for asking questions, especially the kids...

Thanks again for the warm welcome...

Russ... :)
Hi and welcome to the wilderness forum. :) Sounds like you'll fit perfect in over at http://www.bushcraft-lifestyles.com/community/index.php
It's not a survival forum, but a bushcraft one. Bushcraft is about having a deeper knowledge of the woods and so on and not playing Rambo. :)
 
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