New to the Forum - Two WWII's on the way!

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Hello,

I'm new to the forum but have enjoyed all the previous posts and the historical references on the HI website regarding these great knives. I finally broke out and ordered two horn handled 16" WWII models yesterday, one for myself and one for a buddy about to do another tour across the pond. I was eyballing the M43's and the Chiruwa AK's, but opted for the WWII's after reading much about them being a great all around kuk. Thanks for all the advice and reviews offered on the forum. I think it helped in making a good knife decision.
 
Welcome Waturz!

The blades you have selected are among the all time favorites around here. Depending upon what use you put them through, they may or may not be optimum. Doesn't matter, because even if you go on to more HI khuks those 16" WWll's always will have a place. You'll find for more serious cutting of wood an 18" is better. As a back packer, survival, camp or home knife it's hard to beat the 16". Let us know what you think of it when you've put it through its paces. We'd love to hear from you, always getting a kick out of the new experience.



munk
 
Welcome aboard Warurz, pull up a cracker barrel and put yer feet up, no spittin on the hot stove allowed though.;) :D
 
Welcome.

Always test a new blade to make sure it will
stand up to any stresses expected.
Few will fail; but, rarely, one will.
Better to find out & replace it quickly,
than find out in whatever field or forest you're in.

Also, sharpen it a couple of times
to get past the slightly softened polished metal on the outside.
Satori noted this most recently here:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3194518&postcount=11
"Initial tests are pretty light - thin green wood, plywood, etc. I'm not looking for minimal damage, I'm looking for no damage at all. If anything happens I sharpen it again.
Usually it takes a sharpening or two to get down to the good stuff. That typically takes care of the problem"


Here are compatible & equally necessary approaches to testing;
plus related threads re toughness:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=334614
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=335960
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=333571
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=335118
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=330836
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332864
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=305353

Do as much as you have time for.
At minimum, the percussion tests to all 4 sides of the blade.

broken blade:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=315947

convex edges:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=329787
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=302560

edge hardness & edge profiles:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=321385
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=324480

old action videos:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2881590&postcount=7

getting a grip:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=325250

Gallery of pretty pix:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=306753

poetry:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=300896


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Welcome. Please tell your bud to be careful over there, and if possible give us a report.

Interesting he's on his second tour and decided to bring a khukuri... must have seen a need.

Searching old threads unearths a lot of good stuff here, too: ddean just pointed you in some good directions...



Ad Astra
 
Thanks for the warm welcome! I've really become facinated with these knives even before I've gotten one.

Ad Astra - My buddy doesnt know he's going to get a khukri yet. Alot of troops have requested tomahawks (I've heard that some have even been issued) and I would bet that a khukri would be a good fit for some of the same intended uses. My experience with a tomahawk is that it is a good tool when used in conjunction with a good knife. It seems to me that a khukri would fulfill the needs of both of these tools.

We've always exchanged items before and after travels for ourselves or our families. I've always thought a good knife is a welcome gift even if it doesnt make it to the war zone. I'll ask him to get a picture with it if it does make the journey.

Thanks again for the welcome and the info.
 
waturz said:
My experience with a tomahawk is that it is a good tool when used in conjunction with a good knife. It seems to me that a khukri would fulfill the needs of both of these tools.
Yup.:D
From what I read in Blade our troops are using the 'hawks to break into and through the mud walls of some buildings as well as other harder things like hardwood doors.
The softer tip of the khuks should be somewhere near the same hardness of the 'hawks but may be a bit softer than some.
Makes it easier to sharpen back into shape if it does get dinged.
The tip especially and the sweet spot should probably be sharpened at a bit more of an obtuse angle or convexed at a larger radius to hold up to the abuses it might see in the sandbox.
A lot easier to do if you have a belt sander but not impossible with a file and a coarse diamond whetstone.
Your bud will love it if he gets to keep it and IMO he should but there's no 2nd guessing the military brass.

Let us know how it goes and how your bud fares, give him our thanks for his service.
 
Yvsa said:
Welcome aboard Warurz, pull up a cracker barrel and put yer feet up, no spittin on the hot stove allowed though.;) :D
You'll have to read between lines here, Waturz....It wasn't exactly spit my buddy was talkin' bout; spit don't smell none when it sizzles :footinmou :eek: :D :D :D
 
Welcome.

Great choice in khukuris.

RE-read the safety thread.

Hope your buddy returns with great stories and no misadventures.


(You can spit on the stove, just be discreet. Half the fun of a hot stove is making steam.)
 
You have made a wise choice. Now -- another wise thing. You should heed the above advice, and print out the relevant safety info and include it in the gift package to your buddy. Just so he he understands the drill. These things are kinda dangerous if mishandled :D
 
jurassicnarc44 said:
You'll have to read between lines here, Waturz....It wasn't exactly spit my buddy was talkin' bout; spit don't smell none when it sizzles :footinmou :eek: :D :D :D
Yea, Mac caught me here, I meant to say spittin terbaccy juice on the stove ain't allowed.:rolleyes: ;) Guess some of you youngens needed an explanation tho.;) :D
Terbaccy juice spit is enuf to make a rattler wince, you know you've seen it in the movies.:)
 
What ever became of them old-fashioned brass spittoons? Now there was a useful household device. Kept the stove cleaner, too. :D
 
Bri in Chi said:
What ever became of them old-fashioned brass spittoons? Now there was a useful household device. Kept the stove cleaner, too. :D
Dunno Brian, I think they may have gotten replaced by the 3 pound coffee can, those you could just throw away when about a third full.
No one ever wanted to clean one around the gran'folk's old place.:eek: :barf: ;) :D

No one ever wanted to ride behind grandpa in the car either, terbaccy juice spit in the eye burns like hell!!!! :eek: :grumpy: There were always those few drops that flew back in the winder when he spit.
Nobody ever wanted to wash grandpa's car either, at least his side.;)
 
Yvsa said:
Nobody ever wanted to wash grandpa's car either, at least his side.;)

And it goes without saying that when the guy driving the truck has a chaw, you don't want to be riding in the bed. At least, not on his side of it.

In this part of the country, the inevitable automotive finish that this causes is known as "Redneck Racing Stripes."
 
Hello All,


I received the two WWII's today and they are great. One is a Bura made horn handle and one is a Sher made wood handle. Both are very pleasing to the eye. I've not had a chance to do some field testing!

Only one problem (not really a problem at all), I had ordered two horn handled so I wouldnt have to make a decision about which to give and which to keep! A note in the package says HI ran out of horn so I'm probably going to let my buddy decide which he wants. I'll be sitting in my air conditioned house contemplating a M43 or some other HI knife and he may actually be using his so he'll get the one he wants! I've got some firewood in the back for some impromptu khuk practice tomorrow and we'll see how it goes and which one I end up with.

My wife and other family members were a little hesitant when they saw me unwrap the two knives. After passing them around to the adults, they were uniformly impressed with the quality of the knives. I had printed many of the HI website pages (including the safety information) for everyone to read the history and safety procedures associated with the knives. Overall, everyone was impressed and I'm sure there will be more in the collection soon. Thanks again for the good advice on knives and I look forward to participating in the forum.
 
Let me be the first to give you the bad news.

First, you're going to want to get them sharper eventually. You'll do some experimenting with stones and such; then, you'll become entranced by the mysteries of the convex edge. The resident Convex Mafia will answer your questions, you'll play around with sandpaper and mousepads, and with diligence you'll become a Made Man, complete with a belt grinder, strops, twenty different polishing compounds and a trashcan full of hair and paper strips from "sharpness testing." (Not to mention thirty different belts hanging up around your grinder.)

After that, you may become interested in etching - after all, you want to see that hardened area, not just feel it. You'll be well stocked with PCB etchant before the vinegar fumes have left the house and you'll be discussing etch times, temperatures, and whether to heat with hot water or a heat gun, and what kind of polish to use. (And you'll know which polish to use because you'll have all of them on hand.)

Then comes the woodchucking. Handles will be modified, adapted, beautified, and preserved. You'll be able to discuss the finer points between boiled and raw linseed oil, tung oil, spar urethane, how much solvent to cut each with, and you'll speculate on whether Walosi's Special, Watco Danish Oil, or Tru-Oil is the best choice.

And those scabbards? Probably a bit too loose, or too tight; if not, they'll be one or the other six months from now and you'll be modifiying the fit with soaking, shims, and wedging. The chape will be rounded or removed. The leather will be treated by ten different products. (And you'll know which product is the best for any given situation.) Eventually you'll be making your own, and you'll have rolls of leather, drawers of leatherworking (and possibly woodworking) tools, and multiple packs of needles...even if you don't break any. (You'll have lots of needles because you know that they break, but they won't, so you'll just have lots of needles.)

You'll do some homework on the best oil to use. You'll experiment with CLP, Break-Free, and probably some others; then you'll become concerned about what's food safe and you'll buy some Ballistol. (Thereby making many of your other products, for everything from leather preservation to woodworking, obsolete. But you'll use those anyway because you have them.) You'll grow used to the smell of Ballistol. No one else will. Eventually you'll just stop bothering with oil and will instead focus on achieving the perfect patina so that oil isn't necessary. (When you figure this out, let me know.)

At about this point you'll realize that while your khuk is very good, you have a certain task that another model would be perfect for. You'll buy it. Then you'll find another task and another khuk, then another. At that point your fate is sealed.

Welcome, Waturz. My name is Dave and I have HIKV. Since I've found this place I have far too many sharp objects in my home, I can make my splitting maul shave, I can construct sheaths, I can cut, shape, stain, and seal wood, I can etch metal, and I own a belt sander (and some leatherworking tools, including a bunch of needles)...all on account of the very fine and knowledgeable folks here.

Not that I'm complaining or anything, but still, you ought to know up front. ;)

Edit: forgot to mention two things: first, someone here ought to be able to answer any conceivable question that you have, and second, whether horn or wood is better depends on who you ask. (They're both good.)
 
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