New Umnumzaan

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Well after searching around and finding a dealer that had one in stock, I just received my new Umnumzaan. Initial impressions are.... meh... so-so. On one hand, it's a brute of a knife, and very well made. On the other hand, a couple minor issues are ruining a lot of the knife for me.

Yes, it has been said and it's true: It's a very large knife. I knew that coming into this. I've carried a small classic Sebenza almost exclusively for a few years now, so going from that to the Umnum was a big step. Still, the Umnum feels great in the hand, and as much as I didn't like the look of the milling in the handles, it works wonderfully. It's also heavy, but not too bad. I've never had the pleasure to carry a large Sebenza, so this may not be too different weight and size wise for those of you that carry a large Sebbie.

The 2 things that bother me (me personally, ymmv), are that it's not to easy to open lefty, and the swedge.

1. Yes, I know it's a right handed knife, but it should be relatively easy to open lefty. Sometimes, you have something in your right hand, or for whatever reason, you need to open the knife with your off-hand. I can open and close my Sebenza with my off-hand quite easily. Actually, it's almost easier to open with my left hand. The Umnum, not so much. While it's not impossible, you really have to work at it.

2. The darn swedge is sharpened! I know this seems to be hit or miss with some, as to how sharp the swedge is, but mine is extremely sharp. Sharp enough to cut me by running my finger over it with light pressure. This, coupled with the fact that the back half of the swedge is exposed when the knife is closed, doesn't bode well. Nevermind the fact, that this also makes this knife illegal for me to carry here in my great state of Massachusetts. (Double edged knives are illegal here, whether it's 1/3 of the knife's spine or the whole thing. You try arguing with a LEO, and it's not going to end in your favor)

I do miss the lockbar cutout that's on my seb's, but I don't find the Umnum's too hard to handle. All in all, the Umnumzaan really is an impressive knife, and I do like it. Will it replace my Sebenza as my favorite knife? I don't know. Time will tell. I will give it a chance, and look forward to carrying it, but I do feel a little let down over those couple minor issues. Kinda takes the wind out of your sails.

I guess I was expecting the kind of perfection you get with a Sebenza, and it really isn't fair to compare the Umnum and the Sebenza. They are 2 distinctly different knives. The Umnumzaan is a great knife in it's own right, and will most assuredly gain a following all it's own. I know I'm looking forward to really getting to know this knife and see what it can do.

To all the folks at CRK: I think you did a great job with the Umnum (Even with my nitpicking ;) ) I hope to create a bond with the Umnum that's as strong as the one I have for the Sebenza. Thank you :thumbup:

-Dan

(I know, Useless without pics! :D I'll take some later when I get a chance)
 
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I've been concernec about the sharp swedge as well. SHould I ever be in the mood to get one, I'll see if I can get it without the swedge.

As to MA law, where I am anything over 2.5 inches is illegal.
 
I've been concernec about the sharp swedge as well. SHould I ever be in the mood to get one, I'll see if I can get it without the swedge.

As to MA law, where I am anything over 2.5 inches is illegal.

That's the other thing here in Mass., city/town by-laws. I know Boston, and I believe Framingham both have 2.5 inch length restrictions. As to what other cities and towns have imposed length restritions, I'm not sure. For the most part you're covered on larger knives if it's work related, but I wouldn't go carrying an Umnum in Boston unless I was passing through for work or something. Otherwise I'd carry my Umfaan :D

As for the swedge, well it's nothing a ceramic rod can't take care of. I'll just run a rod down my swedge a couple times to dull it, but I'm sure a LEO could still make the argument that it's double edged even though it's not sharp anymore.

-Dan
 
Ok, scrap my earlier complaints. I found that by pressing the glass breaker with my thumb while lefty, the knife is quite easy to open, and a quick couple passes with a ceramic rod took care of my "swedge" issue.

This knife is the cat's pajamas!

Now back to your regularly scheduled program...... :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
 
I ordered an Umnumzaan yesterday, and I've been concerned about the sharp swedge as well. It seems like an odd choice to leave a sharp, exposed edge like that- but I'm sure Mr. Reeve has an excellent reason for it to be that way, that will be understood in due time.
I plan on rounding the swedge off on mine a bit, if it seems likely that I'll cut myself. It shouldn't be a big deal.

I have a small Sebbie that's wonderful, but I wanted something a bit bigger for when I'm not in the city. The Umnum looks like it will be a supremely good knife- I can't wait for it to arrive! I think I'm going to polish the scales on mine- the pictures floating around here of the gentleman who polished his Umnum- those are what pushed me over the edge.
 
I think the umnum is a great knife, the swedge is really sharp. Also with a sharp swedge forbidden in the Netherlands so I have to take care of my swedge to

greetings from the Netherlands
 
Andy, I think you're gonna like it. It's a big honker, that's for sure. :thumbup:

I think the swedge may be a "per knife" kinda deal. Some say their's aren't fully sharpened, but mine was certainly sharp. (The red stuff oozing out of my thumb said so :D ) I have a spyderco ceramic file set, and I just ran the round rod down the swedge a few times and all is good. It still looks sharp, but you can run your finger over it without any hesitation.

I really wasn't turned on by the look when I first saw it, but I gotta tell you, it's grown on me. The more I handle it, the more I like it.

-Dan

Edit: Welcome Kobus, and congratulations on the new knife.
 
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Greetings right back to the Netherlands! :D

You might want to ask whoever you buy an Umnumzaan from to dull the swedge fefore shipping, just in case Customs gets obnoxious about it.
 
I like the swedge, I use it for scraping a lot instead of dulling the blade, which I guess is what it was intended for. If it's too sharp it's nothing a light sanding can't fix. I also use the glass breaker for sort of a flipper.
 
The swedge on mine is sharp, but not too sharp. I ran my finger over it several times, applying decent amount of pressure, because I wanted to see if I could cut myself. I was not able to-which is good. :p

Personally I think that the front top edges of the handles, close to where the tumbstuds rest in the open position, are worse. Of course they aren`t as sharp as the swedge, but they are slightly pointy and have the potential to scratch your skin or snag clothing. Not a big deal, but just not "perfect"......... . ;)
 
Where'd you guys find yours? I've tried about ten vendors, all to no avail. I'm kicking myself from not buying it from Chris himself at the SHOT Show this year. I'm standing there talking to him about it, playing with the knife, and then I didn't buy it. Why? I have no idea.

Anyway, I want one. Anybody know where I can get one, without having to wait three months?
 
Where'd you guys find yours? I've tried about ten vendors, all to no avail. I'm kicking myself from not buying it from Chris himself at the SHOT Show this year. I'm standing there talking to him about it, playing with the knife, and then I didn't buy it. Why? I have no idea.

Anyway, I want one. Anybody know where I can get one, without having to wait three months?

Here are some places that I think are still available.

http://www.peasandcornco.com/gifts/chrisreeveumnumzaanknives.asp

http://www.plazacutlery.com/reeves/Umnumzaan/Reeve1460200front.htm

http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store_detail.html?s=CRKUMNUM

http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/s...eve Products&srch=eqCATE CODEdatarq=crk&&s=25
 
Congrats on the Umnumzaans! I had a concern over the swedge as well but have carried it for a few months with no issues. As Beile said, it does come in handy at times so I will keep it. The only issue I have with the Umnum is the milling in the handle. Not too sure that it is functional for me and aesthetically speaking for me it would be better without it. Overall, I think it has became at least as utilitarian to carry for me as the Sebenzas I have owned over the years.


Bill
 
Yeah, I definitely jumped the gun so to speak without fully taking it in. After playing around with it today, I almost can't put it down. My Seb's may just get a run for their money! :D

Arewethereyet, I scored mine from Gary at Moore Cutlery but I see you already snagged one. :thumbup: I watched it sit in his inventory for a couple days before I finally caved in. Glad to see you snagged one.

Bill, pm replied to and pp sent. :D

-Dan
 
I didn't like the Swedge at first. Now that I have had the knife for a little bit I think it is a handy thing, it helps to use when you need to scrape things and don't want mess up the primary edge. I think it also helps with push cutting, I think the tip really is stronger because of the Swedge.
 
Well, here I was all excited about the Umnum, but I got an email from the vendor saying that they didn't really have the knife in stock- that it would be a 2-3 week wait. This was after they took my money, mind you. I think it was an honest mistake, I just didn't feel like waiting. So I got a refund and ended up finding the large sebbie I wanted- the one with the cool Frank Lloyd Wright-esque "Straight Ahead" graphic.
This one: http://www.newgraham.com/detail.aspx?ID=45056

I guess I chumped out on the Umnumzaan- for now. I can always get one later. I don't think I'll regret the large Sebbie, though.
 
Sorry to hear about what happened Andy, but excellent choice on the large Sebbie. :thumbup: You do know you're just delaying the inevitable though, right? ;) That Umnum will keep knawing at the back of your mind until you get one.

-Dan
 
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