New Wet Grinding Trizact Belt

AVigil

AVigil

Adam Vigil working the grind
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Stopped by Trugrit today to pick up some belts and some of the Rhynowet papers they started to carry and found out they now have a Trizact aka Gator for wet grinding now. Did some testing with it and it works great.

The treads are really crisp and grinding wet is very smooth.

Check it out if you wet grind, much better then some others I have tried.

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I've been having trouble with trizacts ruining my plunge lines lately. I like the surface finish, but it seems like they're y- or x-weight, pretty stiff and don't really round over the way a j-flex belt will when you track them off the platen. I'm not happy with my belt progression right now, I just haven't found one that works well for me. I've been using 36 -> 60 -> 120 grit ceramics -> 220gr j-flex ceramic (these seem to wear out super quickly), then trizacts in various grits. Anyone have any advice on when/how to use these in a way that doesn't mess up your plunge lines? I'm trying to learn to get a good belt finish so I have some options that aren't hand-sanding every knife.
 
Lee Hester said:
I've been having trouble with trizacts ruining my plunge lines lately. I like the surface finish, but it seems like they're y- or x-weight, pretty stiff and don't really round over the way a j-flex belt will when you track them off the platen. I'm not happy with my belt progression right now, I just haven't found one that works well for me. I've been using 36 -> 60 -> 120 grit ceramics -> 220gr j-flex ceramic (these seem to wear out super quickly), then trizacts in various grits. Anyone have any advice on when/how to use these in a way that doesn't mess up your plunge lines? I'm trying to learn to get a good belt finish so I have some options that aren't hand-sanding every knife.
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Finish the Recassio area to finally finish with your ending Cork/Scotch first, then put blue tape over in. Then clamp down a file guide jig right where you want the plugs lines. Grind you bevel/hollow to final finish , remove your file guide & tape ad blend it to your final Cork/Scotch. It eliminates all hand sanding..
 
Lee Hester said:
I've been having trouble with trizacts ruining my plunge lines lately. I like the surface finish, but it seems like they're y- or x-weight, pretty stiff and don't really round over the way a j-flex belt will when you track them off the platen. I'm not happy with my belt progression right now, I just haven't found one that works well for me. I've been using 36 -> 60 -> 120 grit ceramics -> 220gr j-flex ceramic (these seem to wear out super quickly), then trizacts in various grits. Anyone have any advice on when/how to use these in a way that doesn't mess up your plunge lines? I'm trying to learn to get a good belt finish so I have some options that aren't hand-sanding every knife.
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Do you break the edge of your belt so it is flexible? This is key to get the belt bend in the plunge instead of cutting it.
 
I use 24 or 36 then 80 ceramic. Use the 80 to cut in your plunge 100% unless you want a quick transition like an ABS Bowie. 120 smears around and does not cut crisply enough for me. No need for it either with a good 80 grit finish... 80 is kind of a magic number and some makers just use 80 and 600 grit.

After that go to an A100 gator belt as posted above. Keep moving up in grit to desired finish.

Everyone does this differently, that's what works well for me.

Here's my first grind in 6 weeks, I have been through 2 eye surgeries and several procedures... feels good to be back at the grinder! Utilitarian finish with barely visible grind lines, finished to 400 grit (45 gator) then stonewashed.

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A.McPherson said:
Hey Adam, could you describe your process for doing this?
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With the grinder running over hang the belt 1/8" over wheel then take a bar of steel, on the flat, and press the edge over the corner of the wheel.

This will soften the edge of the belt to mold to the plunge
 
Awesome, thanks for the tip!
I struggle with getting a nice, smooth, rounded plunge.
I should also get some j weight belts from what everyone is saying!
 
The normal gator trizact worked fine for wet grinding.... Curious as to that the difference is between the normal ones and these
 
AVigil said:
Lucky

I have had some do just fine and then other not so much.
It has been discussed here over the years.

Remember this convo just a few months ago? https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/belts-for-wet-grinding.1747765/
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That was my thread. I have since tried a 337 trizact with the mister, and it did not go well. I did not have big chunks break off, but after a little while, I noticed a green slurry forming. Trugrit did not carry the 347 back then and I ordered some of the Norax belts. They work fine, but the bump from the seam is much more noticeable, especially on the steel small wheels. I will definitely try the 347 trizact next time I order from Trugrit.
 
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