New York state residences

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Hey everyone,
I'm going to be in Buffalo NY this weekend and have read a lot of things talking about no locking blades, no fixed blades. I've also heard the opposite saying locking blades are fine with-in moderation. I don't know how to interperate all of this. At this point feel like I shouldn't bring anything other than a slipjoint with me for this trip, am I wrong in my assumptions? What's the definition of "in moderation" for New York? Thanks in advance for any knowledge you can supply me with in this matter.
 
Your laws in Nj are actually worded worse than NY, but NY enforces the law strictly in some areas. Up state you are MOSTLY ok with any folder, but by law if you can flick it open and it locks it can be called a gravity knife. This is far more common in NYC and some areas close to NYC, BUT it is the STATE law being enforced....I would suggest a simple slip joint pocket knife...
 
Yeah our laws are worded odd to say the least, however I've never had an issue with any I've carried (generally under 4 inches and nothing with a spring). What made me ask about all this is the fact the quite a few vendors won't even ship to NY and I suppose I'd rather be safe than sorry. I am going to have to admit that I'll miss carrying my southard or pm 2 this weekend. I appreciate the info.
 
There is no length law in upstate new York, only nyc, where it is 4". "gravity knife" is the part I still don't quite understand. Is a delica a "gravity knife"? Just in case I have tightened the pivot screw just enough. I haven't heard anyone I know ever have a problem with a knife. I'm about 250 miles east of Buffalo.
 
Are you guys talking about 4" OAL or 4" blade? I am a knife maker and would like to know the max. blade length for a fixed blade knife. Thanks for the help.

Tim
 
tom19176 said:
Your laws in Nj are actually worded worse than NY, but NY enforces the law strictly in some areas. Up state you are MOSTLY ok with any folder, but by law if you can flick it open and it locks it can be called a gravity knife. This is far more common in NYC and some areas close to NYC, BUT it is the STATE law being enforced....I would suggest a simple slip joint pocket knife...
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Please show me were in the NY State law this is written. The Knife Wright law suit against NY County is because they are enforcing the law in that manner, taking the law out of context for personal / political gain.
 
SideTracked said:
Yeah our laws are worded odd to say the least, however I've never had an issue with any I've carried (generally under 4 inches and nothing with a spring). What made me ask about all this is the fact the quite a few vendors won't even ship to NY and I suppose I'd rather be safe than sorry. I am going to have to admit that I'll miss carrying my southard or pm 2 this weekend. I appreciate the info.
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The retailers and manufactures that are not shipping to NY State as a whole and not just NY County are misquoting that NY State laws have changed. NO laws have changed, just NY County interpretation and the way they are enforcing the laws, for the rest of the state it is business as it has been for many years.

From what I know of NJ laws, what you can carry at home would be legal in Buffalo.
 
KDUJ said:
Please show me were in the NY State law this is written. The Knife Wright law suit against NY County is because they are enforcing the law in that manner, taking the law out of context for personal / political gain.
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Article 265.00 of the NYS Penal law.
Number 5 under definitions "gravity knife"
 
KDUJ said:
The retailers and manufactures that are not shipping to NY State as a whole and not just NY County are misquoting that NY State laws have changed. NO laws have changed, just NY County interpretation and the way they are enforcing the laws, for the rest of the state it is business as it has been for many years.




From what I know of NJ laws, what you can carry at home would be legal in Buffalo.
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The problem is Bloomsburg's cronies. Going after, suing, anyone who sells to a NYS resident, a knife that meets their "illegal criteria". Granted upstate is way different from downstate, the knife makers are wise to stay out of this, messed up state, as a whole.
 
So basically, like all laws.... they are open to interpretation. I think to play it safe I'll bring a spyderco terzuola (non locking), and this way if something should happen, I"ll be in the clear. I'd be pretty butt hurt if I had one of my blades confiscated.
 
KDJU the law is PL 265.01 and defintions under 265.00. The law was written to include what we all would feel are true gravity knives, but it also allows for flickable knives and more important than the somewhat vague wording, is the fact that case after case the COURTS have ruled any knife that can be flicked open and locks to be a gravity knife. That fact will put you in jail. PERIOD.
Yes Knife Rights is taking NYC's DA to court to right their hard core methods and some what wild interpertation of the law. The NYC DA and the NYPD consider assisted openers to be switchblades and flickable locking knives to be gravity knives no matter how much force it takes to open the knives. I hope the case is won by knife rights for sure, but as I always say, until such time OBEY they law....
 
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