News from the Shot Show?

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Anyone have any news or images of new Spydercos from the Shot Show?

I recall that the ATR is now supposed to be green lighted for scans. I'd like to see what the production version will look like.

 
Hi Carlos. I don't remember anyone taking pictures of any of the models.

The Meerkat was the most popular of the new models (prototypes). I would have to say the "ATR" was probably in the top 5. don't know that anyone has pics to show.

The model shown at the show was the prototype. Production is still a number of months away.

sal
 
Hi Sal,

Knifecenter.com has posted some pictures from the show.

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What is the story behind this knife? It looks like interesting refinement of the Navigator/Pegasus concept.
 
Here are some pictures of the one knife no one could keep their hands off of. The Meerkat Prototype. Its one of two blade shapes that were seen at the Shot Show.

Do you see the lock release in any of these photos? If not don't feel bad. Many people couldn't find it with it in their hands either.

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Terry Prichard aka the bladebroker
 
Scale (pivot) release. Sal showed it to me at the NY Custom Knife Show in Nov.
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L8r,
Nakano
 
I'm curious, with Spyderco's recent emphasis on MBC and lock strength, what the strength of the scale release lock is. Anybody know?
 
Hi Burke. Not all knives are destined for MBC and no attempt is made to make it MBC lock strength rqted (200 inch/lbs per inch of blade).

The MeerKat is planned to be at least medium duty (50 inch/lbs per inch of blade).

Hi Carlos. Can't say too much about that model at this time. It doesn't even have a name. No decisions have been made on material, grinds, etc. or even if we'll build it. Knifecenter took photos without permission. That creates just these types of problems.

sal
 
Hi Sal,

I know that to a certain extent it may seem a problem when folks ask about a knife that you have not yet made decisions about, but OTOH, remember that the reason you took it to the SHOT show was to see which items people reacted to and what kind of interest there might be, right? Just consider Bladeforums an extension of that.

We all understand (I hope
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) happen to find that particular prototype at least somewhat interesting. I can't speak for him, but you can consider me to be someone who likes the looks of it. I take his expression to be one of interest. I am also curious about whether this is in the Pegasus/Dragonfly/Navigator size class or different. It looks to me like this one has the "cobra hood" like the ATR. Am I seeing correctly? I can't see the lock on it. What kind of lock is it? Don't feel that you have to answer anything that you're not completely comfortable with, but please do take comments like these as indications of interest. Just as if we were at the SHOT show although we couldn't make it.

On a related note, Howard also had (presumably unauthorized) pix of a Cricket with the "Pearlex" handle. (I'm guessing that's the/a name for the stuff you are using on the Vesuvius.) Color me green (with envy/lust)! When the first pix of the Vesuvius came out, I commented here that I would like to see that handle material on a Dragonfly. (And a Cricket is a good choice too!
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) I'm happy to see that you are at least considering it. When you started a thread on what women would like, the biggest answers were for small, nonthreatening, pretty knives. A Cricket or Dragonfly with a Pearlex handle (and especially with a plain, non-serrated blade) would fit this niche perfectly. I can certainly think of a couple of women who would be likely to get these as presents.
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Consider this post positive feedback on those items too!

Paul


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Hi Sal and Paul,

I am indeed quite interested by this nameless concept knife. If speculation is permissible, it looks like it is in the Navigator size group with similar ergos, and is technically based on the ATR: Integral compression lock, titanium hanlde, Cobra Hood. I've been intending to experiment with smaller knives, and this design looks like it packs a lot of punch into a small package.

I understand the need for secrecy with concept knives and prototypes, so I won't post anymore knifecenter images from SHOT. I suppose that whatever positive feedback might be attained from freely posting concept and prototype images on this forum, is far outweighed by the hassles of of ELU, dealers, and distributors calling for a product that doesn't exist and can't be delivered.
 
Hi Sal,
I'm with Carlos on this one- That looks like a full working proto of the plastic mock up you had at the NYC show. I'm as interested in that knife as I've been in any knife in quite some time. It really looks "right" for some reason. Hope that one sees the light of day (& the dark of my pocket)
Regards-
Mike


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Sal, thanks for your quick response. I was mostly curious as to whether the scale release was *very* strong, like a compression lock, or moderately strong, like a typical linerlock/lockback. I guess now I know. I really like that handle design, by the way. Not sure which blade shape I like better yet (two planned, right?).
 
Hi guys. I understand your interest, and appreciate same. Carlos, you are correct. the number of telephone calls from dealers, distributors and ELUs are definitely a waste of telephone time. Especially since there are not answers.

Had we been asked, we could have shown them what to photograph. Most of the prototypes were missed. He shot the large Ulu. That will never happen, the small one might, but he didn't even photograph that one? etc. etc.

I have no idea what Pearlex is. Certainly not a name that we conceived of or will use. But you can bet that we'll have to deal with the confusion it causes.

We've already had some ask when the titanium police model will be out. It won't. No plans for same.

Burke. It's a lockback with a special way of releasing the lock.

Carlos, Paul. On the "no name" model, What you see may not be what we make, or it may still be years away or not at all.

I've got seven months in designing the pattern. If I wanted the pattern to be available to everyone in the world, I would have made that possible. I don't have the answers to your questions on a public forum. Maybe one day when our "outside" group is formed for opinions, you can choose to be part of that group.

Those photos shown by Knifecenter are more of a problem to me than anything else and I was sorry to see such a lack of professional courtesy displayed by someone who supposedly "loves" knives and their creators. I have little enough time as it is to communicate about real questions. Time wasters like that are to be avoided. Thank you for your kind understanding.

sal
 
Maybe we should email the Knifecenter with all our questions. Keep them hopping for a few months.
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Thanks for the update Sal-
We'll just wait on the "official" word on the upcoming models. I doubt Knifecenter posted the pix w/ malice- but it doesn't make your position any easier- you can't unring a bell. Best of luck.
Mike

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Sal wrote:

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Not speaking for anyone but myself, you understand, Sal, but I do want to say that I'm sorry these sorts of questions cause you trouble. Please don't take my comments or questions as anything at all beyond "I think you're doing great!"

Whether anyone other than Howard Korn uses the name Pearlex, I don't know, but any sign that you're even vaguely considering using the Vesuvius (and sprint-run Native) stuff on a Cricket or Dragonfly model strikes me as yet another opportunity to say "Whoopee! I think that would be great!"

I hope you don't consider my comments as being worth too much less than you paid for them.
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I certainly don't think you ought to consider them worth all that much more than you paid for them. They're just one bit of data among all the other feedback you got from the SHOT show and no more.

Paul


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A tool is, basically, an object that enables you to take advantage of the laws of physics and mechanics in such a way that you can seriously injure yourself.
 


Greetings Mr. Glesser,

Sorry to be a pain in the butt, I'm sure you have more important things to do, but I've just heard about a Perrin LaGriffe Balisong opver in the SHOT SHOW pic's section, Mr. Perrin has one on his site and I'm assuming it's similar. Is this just a custom job or is there a chance of production? Any pics?

Rick Kenney

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You may think it's funny but wait till it's your turn.
 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Yes.The Fred Perrin is a military fixed blade..
you should see the Fred Perrin SPYDERCO Balisong..whoo boy is that really cool! Fred let me play with the design a touch..( I was redrawing it twaeking it with Fred while I was in France..)but its really a Fred Perrin original..a Balisong with a HOLE!!!!
very cool...
yeah..thats right a hole!!!!

gee you missed that too??????
what were you looking at?
noooo they won't put it in a box..this et of protos is actually traveling WITH Poppa Spyder at all times..even I don't get to play with them out of his sight...</font>

This is Mr.Perrin's site. (I think?) His LaGriffe Balisong can be easily distinguished
here, hope this helps clarify.

Rick


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Your page still doesn't load. If you can't get it to work, email me the pic, and give me a hollar and I'll be more than happy to put it up for ya.


Any time I hear Spyderco and balisong in the same sentence, I just start to get a warm, fuzzy feeling. I would absolutely love to have a SpydieBali. That would be a great piece to see put into production, but I believe there are some legal issues in Colorado that prevent this from happening. I think it would be an excellent addition to the MBC series, as a balisong can be used for many strikes/locks/cuts and the lock strength is amazing, kinda like a little folding fixed blade
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