Next generation of knife knuts-squashed

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knifedaddy84

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So today I'm in an outdoor store picking up a compass, so of course I go over to the counter to check out the blades. My view is blocked, however, by a father and teenage son having a discussion.

Father: What are you looking at here?
Son: I like these knives, dad. (Benchmades, Spydies, CRKT, Buck)
Father: Look at these things. What the hell are they for?
Son: You know, cutting.
Father: I don't like them, no one needs a knife like this.
Son: I do, for scouts and stuff.
Father: No you don't, I don't like how they look. They look too dangerous. And they're too expensive. You'll get a scout knife and that's it.

As I shook my head ruefully the father proceeded to buy the son a cheap SAK knockoff in a bubble pack. I thought about trying to say something educational but the father seemed like such an ornery bastid.
 
Probably a good thing you didn't say anything to him. He'd probably gone off on you.

Sounds like a Father of the Year candidate. (sarcasm)

:rolleyes:
 
Actually, I see this as hope.

The father's too overbearing and ignorant about the blades, squashing his son's desire.

That inborn desire will remanifest itself in the rebellious years after the son gets out on his own.

WOO! Then we'll have us not only a knife knut, but a knife fanatic. Probably become the next great knifemaker.

Either that or think knives suck because of the crappy SAK he got and invent some kind of particle cutting utensil. So it goes sometimes.
 
Problem is that after 9/11, that seems to be a wider spread opinion. There's been any number of times when I say I collect knives, the reaction is similar to saying "I am contagious"...:barf: :mad: :footinmou . Even Scouting, where you'd think there was a bastion of understanding, has to CYA for liability. many won't allow knives other than an SAK type...:(
 
It would have been really funny if you bought him a decent little folder to brighten up his day, and bitch slapped his father for being an idiot.:rolleyes:
 
Ah, don't worry. My parents didn't want me having weapons as a kid. They even did a weapons confiscation sweep that would have made Sarah Brady proud. Didn't work. Now the land floweth with knife, sword and gun. He'll just need to wait a few years like I did. It will only make hitting maturity all the sweeter.

TIm
 
Yup, that daddy needed to be bitch-slapped. I think that I would have HAD TO of spoken up and pointed out that his son was being smarter that he was, in that a good knife is better and safer than a POS knock-off. A Boy Scout NEEDS a good knife, and deserves a GOOD knife.
 
Didn't that father ever see Crocodile Dundee? Braveheart? Quigley Down Under?

He probably thinks Romanticism is something you shouldn't do without wearing protection.

Hmm... on second thought, he may be right. Get that kid a gun instead.
 
I agree with Zal. We want what we cann't have. That Kid will probly get those knives on his own when he's older. Many times I'll see something and think " I always wanted that when I was a kid" and get it.
 
I grew up in a very PC and conservative Asian household, and so was forbidden from even handling knives for quite a long time (until my teenage years). Used to make folding knives out of cardboard when I was 4 or 5 (didn't even know folding knives existed then), and at the age of 10 or so, saw a Spyderco Dragonfly in a display case which was my "dream" knife (didn't know it was a Spyderco!) and of course I couldn't get it, but...

Now I regularly EDC 3 knives, and am working on my own fixed blades. :D:p
 
I'm happy to say that I saw the complete opposite of what knifedaddy saw just the other day. I kinda felt wierd listening in, but felt it so refreshing to see such a good relationship, I had to! A father with two sons, @15 and 11, at the local shop. They were shopping to replace a folder the older boy had lost. He had $40 in his pocket and was perusing some of the "less expensive" beaters available. The father who was tending to his own window shopping walked over to the teen and said,"You don't want one of those. They're crap.", ushering the boy over to a display of BMs, Spydercos, and Kershaws. The boy replied,"I haven't got enough for any of these.", which the father responded with, "I'll cover whatever's left. Just don't tell your mother!" And they proceeded to grin at the display with the fathers hands encouragingly placed upon his sons' shoulders.

Almost brought a tear to my eye. Ain't the power of steel grand?!

Dayuhan
 
Other night at my sons Tiger Cub Scout meeting my sons Pack leader walked up, pointed to my pocket and asked "whats that?" Smiling nervously I extracted my Camillus Maxx 5.5 and showed it to him. Told him it was a frame lock made by Camillus, and that it looked alot more large and cumbersome than it really was. There were alot of youngun' boppin' 'round the area, so he gave it the once over said "nice knife" and handed it back to me.

Later on after the meeting was clearing I met up with him and let 'im give it a more thorough looksee , to which he seemed very approving of the thing. One of the Scout moms looked over at it and commented to the other "See?! That's what we teach 'em! slash and burn! aint it great?!" I left the meeting that night knowing that the future of scouting remains bright indeed.

Regarding the kid with the obstinate father- I couldn't think of a better way to plant the seeds of a weapons nut! (oooh! if it's forbidden it MUST be good!) Just hope the kid finds some decent adult supervision since it appears daddy won't be worth a hill of beans. The hobby's alot more rewarding when ya' can still count to at least eight or nine on yer own two forepaws...:D
 
Thats a shame, but thats how some people think. I grew up with the outdoors, guns, knives, etc. Never was an issue in my family. My dad would buy knives for me until i could buy my own when I was sixteen (now its eighteen?). I remember learning to shoot when I was young, getting first knife when i was 4 years old. Wow...how times have changed. The problem today seems to be a lack of responsibility and a blaming of "inatimate" objects for problems in the world. There is much more to it than than that, but I wont get into that.
 
Runs with scissors,

I have also been asked in public what the clip on my pants is. I consider it a boorish question; I never walk up to some sheeple's wife and say, "Wow, just how BIG is that bra?"

When people ask about the clip, I answer it's just a cell-phone. I don't think anybody really believes this answer, but to up the ante he has to call me a liar.

But then, I'm always surprised at just how dumb the average guy walking around really is. My wife and I have a saying, "In the jungle, they would be eaten."
 
My mom never liked knives, guns etc. The fact the I did like them she wasn't to happy about either. One day I go out and come back home with a large bayonet in my hand. She isn't happy that I bought it, but she realized that she would never get me to forget about knives. SHe still doesn't like that I buy knives, but she lives with it.

I would think that this would be the case in many famalies too. Once a child reaches a certain age the parents can't control their mind, and can't stop them from buying things they like. I would bet that this kid will go out, get a job and buy those Spydies.
 
This thread reminded me of an incident that happened about 40 years ago, when I was in Scouts. We were going on a Father & Son hike, and for the first time my dad let me wear his US Navy issued fixed blade from WW II. I wore it proudly on my belt. After a while of hiking we came to some pretty heavy vines covering the trail. One of the leaders asked if anyone had a knife to cut through the vines (so much for being prepared). At his request, I unsheathed the 7 1/2" fixed blade, and offered it to the leader. He looked almost afraid to touch it! He asked where I got a knife like this, and I told him it was my father's from WW II. My father gave him an approving nod. He sheepishly took the knife from me, and proceeded to hack through the vines (looking back, I'm surprised he knew how to even use a knife). He handed it back to me and told me I better keep a blade like that secure. My father and I smiled at each other as I sheathed the knife, and secured it with the snap around handle guard.

Remembering that story brings a warm glow to my heart. Thanks for the opportunity to tell it.

Ken
 
Father: I don't like them, no one needs a knife like this.
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How do morons like this one reproduce?

I thank the lucky stars that I had a father who saw fit to teach me how to handle a knife, cast a fly rod, catch a baseball, and shoot a gun.

I have quite a few knives that belonged to him, as well as knives that belonged to my grandfather and my great-grandfather.
 
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