I'm just curious if anyone out there knows anything on why Nitro B steel hasn't made much of an impact on the knife market yet? There is very little information on it at all, so why no love for this steel? Have nitrogen steels not made much of an impact on the market yet or is this just a fairly new steel that hasn't received enough of a reputation? This is just a curiosity question only and for no other reasons.
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Nitro B steel?
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There's your answer.
Properly marketed, no doubt it could be made into the next sprint run inspiring, flipper funding, steelgasm inducing supersteel.
it's another nitrogen stainless steel, fairly late to the party, so they are playing catch up to sandvik 14c28n and others...
http://www.zknives.com/knives/steels/steelgraph.php?nm=14c28n,nitro-b,cts-bd1n
I like that they use a tiny bit of vanadium for grain refinement, but otherwise, it seems fairly standard
http://www.zknives.com/knives/steels/steelgraph.php?nm=14c28n,nitro-b,cts-bd1n
I like that they use a tiny bit of vanadium for grain refinement, but otherwise, it seems fairly standard
Very good point lolThere's your answer.
Properly marketed, no doubt it could be made into the next sprint run inspiring, flipper funding, steelgasm inducing supersteel.
There's your answer.
Properly marketed, no doubt it could be made into the next sprint run inspiring, flipper funding, steelgasm inducing supersteel.
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Makes sense. Thanks for the info.
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Improved and replaced with Nitro V
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I have a Pohl Force Slipjoint in Nitro B (Mike 42) which is a decent enough steel but doesn't really stand out. A couple more of their knives use it, it seems just a more European Steel, same with N690(Co) seem less common on a global scale. At least subjectively.
Was Nitro V made to be an actual improved replacement or is that just your assumption? I do agree on Nitro V being a better steel, but idk about it's replacement.
Makes sense, European steels don't usually do as well or spread around the market quite like American steels do, and that's very understandable since we do make some great steels here in America. I just thought it may not be getting enough credit as an all around good nitrogen steel as it should be, but as you say from your use, it doesn't really stand out. So I guess that pretty much answers my question on Nitro B.
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At Bladeshow West 2018, New Jersey Steel Baron brought the metallurgist from Buderus to talk about Nitro V in a seminar for knife makers.
The Metallurgist talked about the early work with Nitro B and how Nitro V made improvements.
The Carbon, Chromium balance is not as good for hardness and wear resistance with Nitro B
.50 C% wt and 15% Cr wt not very sexy. The zknives steel app is overestimating the Nitrogen content at .20% it is closer to .15-.10%
The Nitro V is superior and more available.
So nah, no Nitro B, they still make it but I'd never go out of my way to buy it or make a knife from it.
The answer to your question is there are better steels
Another nitrogen steel I'll never touch is 4116N for the same reasons I don't use Nitro B except the C and Cr balance is even worse for high performance edges.
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Alright fair enough. That's some great info and yeah it seems Nitro V has all but wiped Nitro B off the map. Really appreciate the info man and that has pretty much put my Nitro B curiosity to rest.