Nitro V steel from Aldo?! Sounds good

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I was browsing steels on Aldo's and saw that they have a special steel made for them called Nitro V.

It's basically the 14c28n formula but with a pinch of Vanadium.

Sounds beast.

On of the big problems with AEB-L and 14c28n and it's cousins is that it doesn't want to really push into the low 60s hrc.
Also it's not very wear resistant.

The added touch of Vanadium might not be enough to really "Jack" the wear resistance like a Powdered steel (since it's still an ingot steel and they can only add so much)
The grain refinement from the Vanadium might mean higher austenizing temperatures can be reached without spoiling the grain size which means higher working hardness since more alloy and carbon can be put into solution and precipitated.

This means in caveman speak we get more performance at higher hardness without losing anything.

Bet this stuff sharpens like a dream too.
Mmmmm
Fine grain, low 60hrc, Vanadium carbides and nitrides
Great price, ease of grinding, stainless.

Might be a really cool steel.
I'll have to check some out when I get the cash.
 
Getting AEB-L to 64 rockwell is common and has extremely fine grain. I like mine at 62c with liquid nitrogen cryo which improves wear resistance and corrosion resistance.

Looking forward to trying out Nitro V to see if there is much difference.
 
Nitro-V Chemistry Analysis
C: 0.680
..
V: 0.079
N: 0.1098

My projection/wag (IMO of a hand-waving none-metallurgist)
1. CarbonWt% unchanged from aeb-l, so it won't behaves like 14c28n because higher carbon = more affinity to form carbide with alloy than nitride.
2. Alloy elem% below 0.2% mostly end up as interstitial within martensite structure rather than precip as particle. These elements at this wt% main purpose mostly for grain refining, corrosion resistant and other thermal dynamic interactions.
3. V%+N% similar to Aldo's W2 0.165%V, except aim for extra corrosion resistance beside grain refinement.

I have not able to ht produce a good result for 14c28n 62+rc (neither z-finit with 0.5%Ni 60+rc). Well, my skills aren't up to dealing with N yet, so for edge stability I prefer Niobium over Nitrogen, of course giving up the extra corrosion resistant. Niolox is a super-charged of aebl (almost identical total alloy%) but has wear resistant near D2, so workability post-ht is much lower, while still able to sharpen fine with common alumina waterstone for sticky edge.
 
I've been waiting for the right machete and--with .030" behind the edge--the right steel.

Fell Beast in NITRO V, finalized and inbound from Hunter.
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Pic is from Hunter's site. I went natural/choiless. I'll post up some pics soon in his forum when she arrives. :cool:
 
Very easy to grind.

Only issue is the warping while grinding bevels... Or should I HT before grinding?
 
Just have some pieces of NitroV and 3V arrived today. Looking forward to test it against each other later this year.
 
Ordered a 12" fell beast this morning but mulled it over and upgraded to the 17.5" this afternoon. Natural, no choil I may actually be excited to go out and trim some landscaping back!!!
 
looks impressive from the huntsmanknifeco videos i watched. didnt know about it thanks op for bringing it up.
 
Any updates on this? I was about to order some AEBL but came across Nitro V. I would be using it as an alternative to CPM154 for some everyday knives or hunters that would be easier to sharpen.
 
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