no love for the kitchen knife?

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I want to get my father something special to use in the kitchen and was thinking about either one of these Bark Rivers or this Sakai Takayuki. Not real sure where to read up on these kinds of blades... forum-wise, that is. Is there no sub-forum here for kitchen knives? Where do you guys go for in-depth, expert opinions and info. on kitchen knives?
 

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Kershaw makes excellent,affordable kitchen knives.

AG Russell's got a nice setup

Al Mar & Boker do too,but they can get a little pricey.
 
Some of the makers here on the forum make very nice kitchen knives, just check in the makers for sale section. In non custom the Calphalon Katana series knives are excellent. These are VG-1 damascus and combine traditional blades with modern handles.
 
Call me simple, but I've always loved my Victorinox/Forschner kitchen knives--they may not be fancy but they have thin blades with a good polish and they can take a stupid-sharp edge. :)
 
I still use my Kitchen knives from almost 20 years ago when I was a prep cook. I have a Victorinox chef, Henckel serrated bread knife and Henckel Santoku. When I got my sharp maker I spent some good time putting edges back on them. They have never been sharpened in all this time!! The Santoku still isnt as sharp as I would like...
 
I love my kitchen knives; use 'em every day. It's sad there's no sub-forum here.

I've never used the knives you have pictured. I can say that, based on the photo, I'm not a fan of the flat-sided handles on the Bark Rivers. My Mother's Wustof set has handles like that (though not quite as nice) and they're simply not comfortable to use. The micarta is a good choice, though.

Phillip
 
I'm using some Old Henry's and Tramontinas right now, both sets very cheap. Great steel, dry the OH's right away though (Tramontinas are stainless steel). I also traded for a Spyderco kitchen knife, no idea what model it is, but it is perfect for most of the cutting tasks I have in the kitchen (meat, vegetables, even loaves of bread).
 
As it happens I have been researching kitchen knives a lot lately, because I want to buy my Mom a set for her upcoming birthday. She enjoys cooking and has never really experienced quality knives. At this point I am leaning toward Shun Classics, but we shall see . . .
 
I want to get my father something special to use in the kitchen and was thinking about either one of these Bark Rivers or this Sakai Takayuki. Not real sure where to read up on these kinds of blades... forum-wise, that is. Is there no sub-forum here for kitchen knives? Where do you guys go for in-depth, expert opinions and info. on kitchen knives?

I just bought two new fixed blades. An 8 inch and a 10 inch. The 8 inch is a new chefs knife. (The 10 inch will never see the kitchen.:D)

The kitchen knife is finally geting the respect and attention it deserves on this forum. The Chefs knife is my most used blade of any kind.
A crappy one beats any $400 folder simply because of the design. It is amazing the number of people who use high end folders or fixed field blades in the kitchen, yet won't spring for a decent chefs knife. Steel, super or othewise, does not make up for design. A chef and paring knife are superior kitchen blades for food prep.

The size and design may be the most important consideration when buying a kitchen knife. The most common mistake I see is people buying a knife that is too big for them, 8 inches is about max for most people. The other bad trend I see is the marketing of chisel grind designs, so beware, unless you just love Emersons or something.

The Euro brands get bashed a lot on this forum because they use softer steel. They usually handle well though, and don't chip. I tend to agree that there are better main kitchen designs, i.e. chefs/paring, coming out of Japan and Sweden now. However, the Euros still offer the biggest selection of design specific knives.

My last chefs knife was looking like a recurve because of so much use, so I just replaced it with a Fallkniven Blue Whale. The VG-10 works very well thank you.

Either one of those knives you pictured should be good performers. What size knife does your Father use now? If he has been using a paring knife for everything, for years, he may not like a big chefs knife, no matter how good it is. It's hard to teach an old dog new tricks and all that.
 
Posting links to other forums might be a faux pas, but I go to knifeforums.com for their kitchen knife section.
 
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This is the Fukugozai series. They run about $130.
I know how you feel about Carter Knives, as well. Give him the best!
Carter Cutlery
(I'm not affiliated with Carter Cutlery)
 
Kershaw makes excellent,affordable kitchen knives.

+1 on the Kershaw/Shun knives. I keep my Henckels knives razor sharp, but they have nothing on the ease of slicing with the 16 degree edge of my Shun.
 
I still use some Old Hickory and Warther knives, especially for paring knives. These, however, are my "good" knives, made by Ichimonji-Kichikuni in Sakai Japan and are fantastic tools for the kitchen. The handles are magnolia wood, the bolsters are buffalo horn, very traditional. The engravings on the blade are both the maker's name and the shorter line of Kanji is my name translated into a rather colorful expression. My Christian name is Wade which from the english root means wanderer. The Kanji says "the inquisitive eagle that travels."

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The Chefs knife is my most used blade of any kind.
A crappy one beats any $400 folder simply because of the design. It is amazing the number of people who use high end folders or fixed field blades in the kitchen, yet won't spring for a decent chefs knife. Steel, super or othewise, does not make up for design. A chef and paring knife are superior kitchen blades for food prep.

Yeah, that always amazes me when I hear about guys using Mini Grips, Sebs, Paramilitarys, etc. in the kitchen, when even the junkiest of junky task- appropriate kitchen knives, if sharp, will outcut even the most expensive and sharpest of folders. (Yes, I know there are exceptions.)

The size and design may be the most important consideration when buying a kitchen knife. [snip] The other bad trend I see is the marketing of chisel grind designs, so beware, unless you just love Emersons or something.

Some of the kitchen knives I've been looking at do have a chisel grind and their ad copy claims that they're very effective, but only for right-handed use. So if the user is indeed a "righty" then what would be the problem with such a grind? And yes, I do love Emersons. Although the only one I have, a Horseman, oddly has the left side sharpened, which is good for lefties but not righties. I think most Emersons are sharpened on that side. I'm sure this issue has been thoroughly discussed and explained elsewhere, but I can't help wonder why in the world Emerson would sharpen what is the "wrong" side of the knife for the majority of knife users.

The Euro brands get bashed a lot on this forum because they use softer steel. They usually handle well though, and don't chip. I tend to agree that there are better main kitchen designs, i.e. chefs/paring, coming out of Japan and Sweden now. However, the Euros still offer the biggest selection of design specific knives.

In my research I'm finding many chef knives (even Japanese-styled ones) that use what is termed only as Swedish stainless steel, or Swedish AEB-L stainless super steel. Funny, as I've never noticed any Swedish steels on any of the folders or fixed blades that get press around these parts. Is Sweden renowned for its steel?

My last chefs knife was looking like a recurve because of so much use, so I just replaced it with a Fallkniven Blue Whale. The VG-10 works very well thank you.

VG-10 seems to be quite a popular steel in the kitchen knives I've been looking at, although most use it in the core of the blade surrounded by softer hammered, layered damascus-looking stainless steel. Apparently these kitchen knife makers treat their VG-10 to a hard-ish 60rc, thus necessitating it being wrapped in something soft.

Either one of those knives you pictured should be good performers. What size knife does your Father use now? If he has been using a paring knife for everything, for years, he may not like a big chefs knife, no matter how good it is. It's hard to teach an old dog new tricks and all that.

He currently favours a POS no-name 8-inch slicing/carving knife, mostly for its thin stock and narrow (height-wise) blade, so anything up to 9 inches should be in his comfort zone, although that might rule out the Bark Rivers I was considering, which are fairly broad. I might then just have to pick up one of the BR's for myself to try out:D... although, after some digging, there is quite a bit more out there at that price point.
 
traditional Japanese Knives for the most part at single bevel with a hollow back side. The design when used for the proper task is flawless.

good sources for kitchen knives

www.chefknivestogo.com mark kicks ass and has some of the fastest shipping around

www.japanesechefsknife.com koki has never failed to go out of his way to serve me

www.korin.com the crazy nyc superstore

www.aframestokyo.com takeshi is a good seller who carries some oddball stuff

www.cartercutlery.com murray carter love him or hate he makes good knives

www.japanwoodworker.com good source for all sorts of goodies

www.epicedge.com has some nice stuff and make some killer handles

www.watanabeblade.com excellent source for forged white 2 and blue 2 knives

www.rodrigueknives.com Pierre made me a custom suji that I love was exactly what I wanted it to be

butch harner as mentioned above makes good stuff

I know I am missing some stuff but this is just off the top of my head

as for ebay stores
myjapanneeds and blueway japan standout
 
If you want a custom maker, Landi makes some great kitchen knives in ATS-34.

Carter Cutlery is another option.

Lots of good kitchen cutlery. :)
 
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