Norseman vs shirigoov

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colubrid

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Which is the one to get?

any input from someone that has experience with both?

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This one is likely to come down to two things for most people.

1. Manufacturing Bias. The Grimsmo is super smooth, well built and designed. As is the Shiro. The Grimsmo is made on CNC with tight tolerances, which to some isn't the same as hand made. The Shiro is a more traditional build.

2. Style and Design. The Shiro has a more traditional style as well. The Norseman blade may not be for everyone. The Grimsmo tend to each have their own character, while the Shiro tend to be one of many.

Overall, personal choice. Each well made, each put together extremely well. I know this isn't a ton of help, but they are pretty close in function, which just leaves the details.

In case it matters, I lean Norseman.
 
prisoner6 said:
This one is likely to come down to two things for most people.

1. Manufacturing Bias. The Grimsmo is super smooth, well built and designed. As is the Shiro. The Grimsmo is made on CNC with tight tolerances, which to some isn't the same as hand made. The Shiro is a more traditional build.

2. Style and Design. The Shiro has a more traditional style as well. The Norseman blade may not be for everyone. The Grimsmo tend to each have their own character, while the Shiro tend to be one of many.

Overall, personal choice. Each well made, each put together extremely well. I know this isn't a ton of help, but they are pretty close in function, which just leaves the details.

In case it matters, I lean Norseman.
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I just thought of something that makes me lean to Norseman as well. Shiro knives have no warranty in this country and cannot be worked on by anyone unless it is sent back to Russia.
 
Having owned both, I'd have to give the edge to the Grimsmo. If you are not a fan of the quirky Tanto/Recurve, you should check out Grimsmo's Rask.
 
I haven't had either, but the Grimsmo is gorgeous. I just wish it was smaller.


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prisoner6 said:
This one is likely to come down to two things for most people.

1. Manufacturing Bias. The Grimsmo is super smooth, well built and designed. As is the Shiro. The Grimsmo is made on CNC with tight tolerances, which to some isn't the same as hand made. The Shiro is a more traditional build.
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How do you think Shirogorov makes knives? They are some of the most heavily machined mass produced knives going.
 
Does anyone know of the grimsmo brothers are still producing Norsemans. Their website hasn't been updated in a while and it seems like all they are working on is the task.
 
Not to take this too far off topic, but I would like to find out how to order a Norseman. I have been poking around for a while and have yet to find an answer.
 
kivarson said:
Not to take this too far off topic, but I would like to find out how to order a Norseman. I have been poking around for a while and have yet to find an answer.
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At this time, you cannot order a Norseman. If you are lucky, you can catch a random drop on their site or Instagram. Or go the route of second hand market. You can still pre-order a Rask, and wait time is looking like 6 months.
 
For the price, I'd say Norseman if you can get it maker's price from John and not through the secondary market flippers. However, the norsemans that go up on their website sells out in like 10 seconds so that's proving quite tough.
 
sutherland said:
Having owned both, I'd have to give the edge to the Grimsmo. If you are not a fan of the quirky Tanto/Recurve, you should check out Grimsmo's Rask.
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having owned neither but liking something less quirky myself, I would agree 100% that the rask is way closer of a comparison... the Norseman is a love it or hate it look.
 
i own 2 norseman's, and 2 Shirogorov/Dmitry Sinkevich Poluchotky's (2 of the 200 made), in addition to another shirogorov. it's really impossibly to pick between the two until you KNOW what criteria you want to use to 'judge'. the lines of the poluchotky are absolutely gorgeous, and the knife is flawless. the morseman is also flawless, but the lines are not as artistically 'perfect' as the poly. however, you CAN buy a poly. one on eb now - for $4,000+! you can pretty much NOT buy a norseman - you have to wait for one to be listed somewhere, and then act quickly. the law of supply and demand. the supply is virtually non-existent, and the demand is high. one just sold on eb for $1,500+ after blade 16.

IF i were going to buy one or the other, and price was no object - and it usually isn't for me - i'd first buy the norseman, IF i could get it, because you CAN'T always get one. the poly will be available - somewhere - if you're willing to spend $4,000 or so...jzs
 
Today, a Grismo Norseman arrived in the mail in its shipping cardboard. Got junk on my Slyszz-something, getting through tape and cardboard. Then got into the plastic #2000 box and found the nano-oil inside along with the wrench for disassembly. I examined the blade, rather closely. I looked for flaws. I looked again. I'm still looking. I'm sure I will find a flaw down the road. So far though... I got to flipping it open. Most responsive knife to flipper input (ratio of effort to response in opening) that I have ever deployed. Butter-smooth. Silk. Like glass, not only the kind you look through but like a lake or an ocean that is perfect to look at or to sail upon. I was nervous and e-mailed John just a few minutes before this thing of beauty arrived. He graciously e-mailed me back to let me know that it showed as delivered and I thanked him for that and let him know that his box came in. I checked the centering. Perfect. I tried shutting the knife a few times: perfect drop shuts each time. Then I felt the knife in my hand and realized that whatever the Grismos are doing, the knife is so comparably light that this is the biggest knife that I could EDC ever day and still not stress over weight or size. I had a vision of not liking the case, but I was wrong. I didn't get to pick my color which is the one hardship or feature of doing business in the Land of the Maple Leaf that I can't control, and that is not such a beautiful thing. Now I need to carry and own the Norseman to find out if it grows on me or instead becomes something where a bit of contempt creeps in. This is possibly the Ferrari of Knives. One last note: the #2000 case was a little difficult to get open for some unknown reason. I used a wallpaper thin scraper to fit in the tiny locking hole. (I think that is mainly to keep small children who may be around from getting the case open.) I mean splitting the locking hole at the case halves. That is how I initially got it open without forcing it. I looked for foam or small imperfections in the box which might have kept it from coming open right away. Would I sign up to buy another one sight unseen, again? Yes. I would just hope the color would be to my liking. I did like the surface finish of the titanium. More on some sight later. You might be able to figure out the color, if I mention the price was $940.00. AF
 
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