North American puukko

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Alberta Ed

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Camillus has the bases covered for BIG knives with the reintroduction of the great Becker line; now, how about an all-around utility/puukko style blade in the same steel ? (Fallkniven has had considerable success with its practical F1: excellent ergonomics, great (albeit stainless) steel, and well thought out carry system.) Maybe a collaboration with Dozier or Ed Caffrey?
 
I suggested a straight hunter among other models a short while back so YEAH :^)
 
The Camillus/CUDA Talon in good steel, as opposed to very expensive Talonite, would be a good practical addition to the line, with a minimum of re-tooling. Also there's Cold Steel's Master Hunter in Carbon V, though a bit larger than a "puukko equivalent.

But so far nobody in the north American knife industry (as opposed to custom makers) is doing the "puukko package," which is a short (up to 4"), slim, lightweight fixed blade with either no guard or a small speed-bump, and a dangler-style sheath.

I clicked on this "wish list" thread in the "what's new" forum, hoping it would be news that somebody had done it.
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- JKM
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Umm... isn't the shape of the blade on the Talon pretty close to the puuko shape anyway?

Not that I think a Camillus Puuko would be a bad thing, just that the Talon is pretty close... seems to me.

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iktomi
 
Hmm, looks like we could be on a roll here. What I have in mind is a smaller handier knife that still cuts as well as a CS Master Hunter. That is one of my favorite knives, but it is a bit bulky to pack beneath a sports jacket; it will be going with me on an elk hunt next week, but there won't be any sheeple nearby. What I have vaguely in mind is a puukkoish blade of F1 dimensions, sturdier than the Frosts or Erickssons from Mora, Sweden, but not too thick (1/8" would probably do), excellent carbon steel that takes and holds a terrific edge, an ergonomic grip (in a nicely patterned wood like the Roselli's birch, for instance), and a tuppi type dangler sheath. Just my thoughts. Maybe something like an affordable Kellam.
 
To turn the Talon into a puukko, you'd probably want to switch to steel with a high RC hardness for woodworking and such, and you'd have to make a "dangler" sheath for it.


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Originally posted by James Mattis:
To turn the Talon into a puukko, you'd probably want to switch to steel with a high RC hardness for woodworking and such, and you'd have to make a "dangler" sheath for it.
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Those aren't much of a change. And one of those is even a sheath change, not the knife. That's my point... and actually the reason that the Talon has become my favorite carry knife, probably.

Why the steel/hardness change? Not that I'm disagreeing; but the little bit of trimming tree branches, shrubbery, and such don't seem to have fazed my Talon a bit. Admittedly, that's not "woodworking", and these certainly weren't hard woods. But, I'm curious.

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iktomi
 
Puukkos are tradionally optimized as wood-carving knives that can also clean a fish or disassemble a freshly-killed moose, and they usually have a very thin edge, often a "zero edge bevel." The cobalt cutting alloys are hard carbide crystals in a matrix that's much softer than heat-treated steel, and the conventional wisdom seem to be that you give those blades a thicker edge. Their strength is in the pull cut - dragging the carbide crystals like micro-serrations across the material being cut, as in cutting meat, rather than a push-cut, as in whittling well-dried wood.


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