North Carolina School law?

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So, the relevant section I found goes like this:

It is a Class 1 Misdemeanor for any person to possess or carry, whether openly or concealed, any BB gun, stun gun, air rifle, air pistol, Bowie Knife, dirk, dagger, slingshot, loaded cane, switchblade knife, blackjack, metallic knuckles, razors and razor blades (except solely for personal shaving), fireworks, or any sharp pointed or edged instrument (except instructional supplies, un-altered nail files and clips, and tools used solely for the preparation of food, instruction, and maintenance on educational property). It is also a Class 1 Misdemeanor for any person to cause, encourage, or aid a person who is less than 18 years old to possess or carry, whether openly or concealed, any of these items on educational property.

What my reading of that says is that no pointed or edged instrument can be carried on a school campus; however the particular campus I have business on has a policy that specifically allows pocket and pen knives. Any help would be much appreciated as to understanding what is allowed or not.

Further, if there was an omnibus resource for laws regarding all weapons in NC; even an attorney who could consult for a short time and set me straight, I would be very appreciative.

Zero
 
is the school policy for employees or for everyone who happens to be on campus?

there is an exemption in the section you posted, which essentially allows carry for employees who need such items for employment purposes (cooks, maintenance, gardeners, etc). if your employment meets the criteria, you are within the law.

for others, the law would supercede the school's policy in this case.
 
MORIMOTOM said:
is the school policy for employees or for everyone who happens to be on campus?

there is an exemption in the section you posted, which essentially allows carry for employees who need such items for employment purposes (cooks, maintenance, gardeners, etc). if your employment meets the criteria, you are within the law.

for others, the law would supercede the school's policy in this case.
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Employees as well "without serving an educational purpose and having prior permission". Reproduces the legal text I quoted above. Given that there is an explicit exception in the student book for pocket and pen knives, as well as personal knowledge of a number of employees who have knives, in fact, students (and their supervisors) have been known to wear sheath knives around (generally they are upstanding students with good reason with campus jobs). So there at the very least is a de facto acceptance of all but ridiculous knives (there are machetes, chainsaws, and all that for maintenance on campus) my question is strictly legal, even if you won't be reported.

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Zero_Time said:
Employees as well "without serving an educational purpose and having prior permission". Reproduces the legal text I quoted above. Given that there is an explicit exception in the student book for pocket and pen knives, as well as personal knowledge of a number of employees who have knives, in fact, students (and their supervisors) have been known to wear sheath knives around (generally they are upstanding students with good reason with campus jobs). So there at the very least is a de facto acceptance of all but ridiculous knives (there are machetes, chainsaws, and all that for maintenance on campus) my question is strictly legal, even if you won't be reported.

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private or state school?

the section may not apply to educational environments on private property.
 
MORIMOTOM said:
private or state school?

the section may not apply to educational environments on private property.
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These prohibitions will apply in/on any school building or bus, school campus,
grounds, recreational area, athletic field, or other property owned, used, or operated by
any board of education or school board of trustees, or directors for the administration
of any school.

As far as I know, basically means to cover any reputable private or public school. They have a board.

Zero
 
i have no idea.

we must be missing something here. i doubt any school policy would have been created in direct contradiction to existing state laws.
 
MORIMOTOM said:
i have no idea.

we must be missing something here. i doubt any school policy would have been created in direct contradiction to existing state laws.
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Exactly. Something doesn't add up. Plus, this is NORTH CAROLINA... I've lived in California, and believe me, there is no way they are more strict out there than Cali is when it comes to this kind of stuff.

Zero
 
14-269 (excerpts). Carrying concealed weapons. (a) It shall be
unlawful for any person, except when on his own premises,
willfully and intentionally to carry concealed about his
person any bowie knife, dirk, dagger... razor... or other
deadly weapon of like kind. This section does not apply to
an ordinary pocket knife carried in a closed position. As
used in this section, "ordinary pocket knife" means a
small knife, designed for carrying in a pocket or purse,
which has its cutting edge and point entirely enclosed by
its handle, and that may not be opened by a throwing,
explosive, or spring action... (b1) It is a defense to
prosecution under this section that: (1) The weapon was
not a firearm; (2) The defendant was engaged in, or on the
way to or from, an activity in which he legitimately used
the weapon...


based on the above, it would seem a folding knife does not meet the criteria for weapons as defined in the sections that follow.
 
MORIMOTOM said:
14-269 (excerpts). Carrying concealed weapons. (a) It shall be
unlawful for any person, except when on his own premises,
willfully and intentionally to carry concealed about his
person any bowie knife, dirk, dagger... razor... or other
deadly weapon of like kind. This section does not apply to
an ordinary pocket knife carried in a closed position. As
used in this section, "ordinary pocket knife" means a
small knife, designed for carrying in a pocket or purse,
which has its cutting edge and point entirely enclosed by
its handle, and that may not be opened by a throwing,
explosive, or spring action... (b1) It is a defense to
prosecution under this section that: (1) The weapon was
not a firearm; (2) The defendant was engaged in, or on the
way to or from, an activity in which he legitimately used
the weapon...


based on the above, it would seem a folding knife does not meet the criteria for weapons as defined in the sections that follow.
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Right, general carry in the state is fine. Shoot, you can carry a switchblade as long as it is NOT concealed. The question is, what about on school grounds? I also have a question about other tools that are banned in other states, but do not appear to be banned here, but that's not knife related, so I will hopefully be able to be directed to an attorney or someone that could answer my questions- should be no more than 20 minutes of questions and them giving me legalese and loopholes, probably under 20.

Zero
 
i really have no idea.

it may be just one of those laws that are not generally enforced as stand alone charges on college campuses.
 
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