Norton 1000/4000 waterstone as only stone?

[joepa150]

I found a Norton 1000/4000 combination waterstone for $35 plus $8.38 for shipping. It is 8x2x1 NOT 8x3x1.

1)Would this stone be ok as my first and only sharpening stone?
2) Would the 3" width be that much better than the 2"?
3)Also would a King 800/4000 or 1000/6000 be a better first stone?
4) Is this a good deal?

I will add probably a coarser DMT dia-sharp in the future.

 

[Jason B.]

If your going to get a combo norton get the 220/1000 that way when you want a higher grit stone you can get the 4000/8000. Getting the 1k/4k sounds like a good idea now but you always gotta think ahead. Though King stones are OK I would still stay away from them if you looking to get a "good set" of stones.

 

[joepa150]

If your going to get a combo norton get the 220/1000 that way when you want a higher grit stone you can get the 4000/8000. Getting the 1k/4k sounds like a good idea now but you always gotta think ahead. Though King stones are OK I would still stay away from them if you looking to get a "good set" of stones.

Would you go with the Norton 220/1000 $36.99 or a Naniwa 120/1000 $32.99?
I wonder which would be a better quality stone?


http://www.sharpeningsupplies.com/Naniwa-Japanese-Combination-Waterstone-P303C97.aspx

Also for $49 I can get this set
http://www.sharpeningsupplies.com/Naniwa-Japanese-Combination-Waterstone-Set-P324C97.aspx

 

[Jason B.]

That a tough one to say as I have not used those stones to compare. I've heard much good about the nortons and the fact that they cut fast, I have a 12K naniwa superstone and its very high quality but I can't say much about the others as I have never used them.

Personally if I had to make a blind choice I would go with the norton.

 

[zyhano]

I have the 220/1000 naniwa and am happy with it. definitely worth the 32 dollars, I paid more (37 euros). can't say anything about norton stones. The 220 side is not flat anymore so I will have to flatten it, but all stones wear out under use.

 

[joepa150]

I have the 220/1000 naniwa and am happy with it. definitely worth the 32 dollars, I paid more (37 euros). can't say anything about norton stones. The 220 side is not flat anymore so I will have to flatten it, but all stones wear out under use.

Do you think yours are the same? The link you provided says "super" where the Naniwa stones I linked are not Naniwa Superstones.

http://www.knivesandtools.com/nl/pt/-naniwa-super-watersteen-korrel-220-1000.htm

 

[Dorito Monk]

If your going to get a combo norton get the 220/1000 that way when you want a higher grit stone you can get the 4000/8000. .

Agree wholeheartedly with this one. The 220/1000 is an extremely versatile stone. It'll repair severe damage and give you a very useable edge when used in conjunction with a leather strop, whereas I wouldn't find a 1000/4000 would give you as much bang for the buck.

TBQH, I have both a 220/1000 combo stone and a 1000/4000 combo stone (not nortons, specifically). I use the 1000 side of the 4000 stone exclusively for woodworking tools which require an extremely true stone and I use the 1000 side of the 220 grit for knives and miscellany. That way I always have one excessively flat stone and one 'abusable' stone.

 

[THG]

Using 1000 grit for maintaining your edges might end up taking a while sometimes. I'd get something coarser to restore the edge and get out any nicks.

 

[MTHall53]

I have the 220/1000 naniwa and am happy with it. definitely worth the 32 dollars, I paid more (37 euros). can't say anything about norton stones. The 220 side is not flat anymore so I will have to flatten it, but all stones wear out under use.

I have been thinking of getting a water stone too. Hope this isn't too goofy a question, but how much water does a water stone need to have? Just a few drops, or do you need to run water constantly over it while sharpening?

 

[cbwx34]

Varies... some stones work with just a spray, others have to be soaked for 10-15 minutes. Some need an occassional rinse during sharpening.

cbw

 

[zyhano]

Do you think yours are the same? The link you provided says "super" where the Naniwa stones I linked are not Naniwa Superstones.

http://www.knivesandtools.com/nl/pt/-naniwa-super-watersteen-korrel-220-1000.htm

you're right, I thought you said 220/1000 but you said 120/1000
http://www.knivesandtools.com/nl/pt/-naniwa-combi-steen-korrel-120-1000.htm
thats the one. It's actually a cheaper variant than the super stones, they are called 'work' stones. A major difference is that the work stones (120/1000) really have to soak in water. I have the super stones line and only the 220 and 1000 soak up some water, but they don't need to lie in the water for 5 minutes before using them. I just spray some water on it from a plant watering spray can.

I have been thinking of getting a water stone too. Hope this isn't too goofy a question, but how much water does a water stone need to have? Just a few drops, or do you need to run water constantly over it while sharpening?

some stones need more water, others need just enough to have a thin layer of water on it and it doesn't soak into the stone. higher quality stones generally need less water is what I understand

Varies... some stones work with just a spray, others have to be soaked for 10-15 minutes. Some need an occassional rinse during sharpening.
cbw

+1: work stones (cheaper), more water. super stones (somewhat better quality), less water

 

[MTHall53]

If we are talking same grit, is there an advantage to water stones over diamond stones?