norton stones

abey67

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I'm looking for a economical stone to sharpen cpms30v, ats34, and D2. Will the norton stones do the job and last? I heard diamonds are good but loose their abrasive qualities fairly fast. Also, what is the Mohs rating for norton stones.
 
Don't know the Mohs, but could probably track down the Vickers hardness somewhere. Quality diamonds (ones made by EZE-Lap and DMT) lose a top layer of loosely bound diamonds, but what's left over still cuts great. That said, Norton's Crystolon and India stones will work for ATS-34, D2, and S30V. Their waterstones are even better (but no longer economical...).

Welcome to Bladeforums, by the way!
 
I love my Norton. I love my DMT.

I got a generic, ACE Hardware stone for free, and though it doesn't cut as aggressively, I get suprisingly great results with it! Now, I reccomend them to my cheap friends who think nortons and dmt's are too spendy.
 
Yes, they will get the job done, all the steels you mentioned can be sharpened. What Norton stones were you considering? They make a few different ones:

Crystolon (silicon carbide, approx. 150 to 400 Japanese grit range); cut fairly quick (but slower than waterstones and diamond) and wear fairly quickly, but not compared to waterstones, don’t come in what I would consider a finishing grit.

India (Aluminum Oxide, 220 to 500 grit); come in some finer grits, OK for finishing on a working edge, don’t cut quite as quick as Crystolon but wear very slowly (are fairly hard, I believe this is why they finish better than the Crystolon of comparable grit)

Arkansas; the soft I don’t use. The ultra fine / translucent (Natural 1,200 to 2,000 Grit) are the finest and most consistent Arkansas stones I’ve come across. They cut fairly slowly, don’t wear at all, and can put a hair popping edge on a knife.

Norton waterstones (220 – 8,000 Grit); I don’t have personal experience with these but I’ve heard good things. I went with a less expensive waterstone set. waterstones are faster and have a larger grit range than the above stones, if you don’t mind making a mess.

Diamond? I have worn out quite a few quality diamond (DMT and EZE-Lap) hones but I do press hard, they are expensive, and cut fast but I dont like them for finishing (although I havent tried the new DMT 8000 grit). Other types / systems you might consider? Ceramic (Spyderco and others, 1000 – 4000 grit), Waterstones (many brands, 80 – 30,000 grit) scary sharp (Micro finishing film, PSA backed and non, 100 – 30,000 grit) spyderco sharpmaker, Lansky, and Edge-Pro systems. There are lots of options out there, search around the forums and you’ll find as huge a variety as there are opinions about witch are best.
 
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