Not All CRKTs Are Bad

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As much as I've criticized CRKT knives lately, there are some that are actually somewhat endearing. True, I still don't like their chisel grind blades and their horrendous serration pattern, but they don't waste a lot of blade real estate with the serrations and the knives themselves are strong, overall, and attractive. I decry their use of junk steel in various blades and I don't believe their AUS8 heat treating is as good as Cold Steel's.

Some that I do like are the M21-02 and the M16-01T, both with 3-inch blades. I don't normally carry tiny blades, but I have, on occasion, carried the M21-02. Still, you can't appreciate either of these knives unless you actually handle them. If I had to carry a 3-incher and didn't have a Spyderco Native or a Buck Vantage Pro, the M21-02 would be my first choice. (It might be anyway, just because I like the looks).

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The M21 (top) and the M16 both have the same blade size,
but they have different frame size and blade configuration.


One that I have been carrying more these days is the M16-14SFA. The finish is very smooth all over the knife. I could even say it feels "silky" to the touch. Yet the hilt and the frame make it easy to hold. It comes with a sharp chisel grind blade and it doesn't cut wood very well (unless you're left handed), but it's easy to sharpen, it opens quickly and has the patented Lake and Walker Knife Safety. This knife I believe is the last one of this series to be made in the U.S. The SFA is made here; the SF is made, I think, in China or Taiwan.

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If this knife looks comfortable, it is! Very well made and an
excellent tactical knife.


Finally, one of the finest knives CRKT ever produced is the now discontinued S-2. Often called the "poor man's Sebenza," the S-2 has a large titanium frame and a near 4-inch ATS-34 blade. The materials and assembly were superb and the knife can still be had occasionally at a good price.

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The CRKT S-2 was made back when CRKT cared about
its reputation. Now many of the blades are trash.


Some of the other titanium knives now made are fine, though the new ones will need some polishing. How long CRKT will balance between good products and unbelievably bad is anyone's guess. For tactical purposes, many of them are okay (with AUS8 blades); all other models and steels should be rejected out of hand...er...so to speak.
 
I agree with you.
My M16-EDC Spearpoint is one of my favorite knives. I've long since moved past AUS8 into better steels like S30V, D2 and VG-10, but this knife has remained a significant part of my EDC rotation since I acquired it several years ago. A lot of people complain about the Auto-LAWKS but I don't even notice it. I can open and close the knife as fast as any other, left or right handed. It's a great knife. It often competes with my stainless Leek for pocket space, and that's a great AO, a great knife in general, with a significantly better steel.
A Hissatsu folder is also part of my collection; not the most useful knife to those of us up here in Canuckistan, but it's there when I need it every so often. It has a good feel, and it's dazzlingly fast. As a weapon, it's definitely top-notch, but I don't really need any weapons right now.
I had an M21-SF as well, but I sold that after my Waved Endura kept upstaging it. The M16 series is definitely my favorite.
CRKT has a few knives like this; a lot of their knives are cosmetic novelties, but a few of them have some genuine practicality behind their designs. It's just a matter of ferreting them out.
 
I know CRKT have some issues, but I like their designs like Cold Steel. If you wait and do searches places like SMKW sometimes have great deals on CRKT that other brands do not.
 
You have so many complaints about CRKT yet you seem to keep accumulating them? It is a shame they killed off the S-2. Meanwhile, I am a happy Spyderco fan.
 
My Dad had a few CRKT's over the years and these are the ones I like best and have hung onto. The Kasper with metal handle has AUS8A steel. ( I think the M-18 does too) They all open smooth and have good lock-up.
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I'm not a huge fan, I really regret buying my M16-10Z because of the chisel grind and AUS4 combo edge. If I knew then what I know now. Although buying that knife is what made me discover this forum.

However, I will definitely be picking up the new Summa and Tuition by Gerry McGinnis.

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Right said!

The M16/M21 series are good, sturdy knives. They can took some serious punishment without failing. :thumbup: (I don't like the chisel grind too.)

The S2 were a superb knife, I had only the middle lenght version...
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One should not confuse one's personal preferences with an objective evaluation of a knife being "good" or "bad."
 
Aren't they switching to one of the Chinese alphabet steels?
If so, that's good, because I have good experiences with those in Byrd and BM knives.
 
I recently bought the CRKT My Tighe assisted opener framelock. It's a very nice knife. Blade rockets open. Lockup is solid. Lock bar engages where it should and releases without stickiness. I'm new to the brand after focusing on Spyderco in recent years.
 
I love their designs....I just wish they used better materials.

i agree. some designs are over the top tho. just some good 440C, or something like kershaw's 14c28n. maybe even 154cm or D2. maybe some GOOD looking micarta or G10 or maybe even some titanium....maybe some real wood.
 
I has an M21 with an aluminum handle. It seemed like a great
knife, but the handles were a little slippery. If I could find one
in the $35 range with a g-10 handle I'd pick it up.
 
I have had a number of them and given away quite a few, for the most part I think their quality is par for the money. My little Trutle is sharp as a scalpel and the KISS is great as well. I have one of the Rolox copies they made and it is a handy, light, and sharp dress knife, I think I gifted about 4 of them to family as well. But my favorite is my Serengeti...hands down a great hunting knife.

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I like a lot of their designs, however the materials used to build the knife do not really match the price, in my opinion. I handled one i've never seen before just a few days ago, and it lost an edge extremely fast. I will try and figure out what is was.
 
When I was growing up, my Dad used to always buy Tactical Knives magazine and they had a lot of write ups on the CRKT line.
I noticed they always spoke highly of them and we did buy a few over the years.
Truth is after using a couple on hardwood the edges were ruined and I could not resharpen them with rods like I can a Benchmade or Spyderco.
Now that I am older I see that CRKT advertises heavily in T.K. magazine and I'm not so naive as to not connect things I once didn't. (those ads and articles were often right together)
 
I havent had any of the new knives in the AUS 4 range of steels, but the older M-16's I've had were excellent. I've admired the M-21 for a while too. The large zytel tanto is on my to-buy list, but my Benchmades seem to keep getting in the way. The chisel edges only show up on the 1/2 serrated versions, which I dont like anyway, so I just get plain edge if possible. My friend also has a full chisel ground tanto fixed blade, but it was obvious that was the intent anyway. I did have a 1/2 serrated M16 spearpoint with the chisel edge and had no problem sharpening it on the Sharpmaker. The Kasper folders are excellent, if a little heavy, and the Falcon is one I regret trading away. Their designs are from world class makers. The materials are chosen to keep price down (and profit up I suppose). The steels used are well known for forming difficult to remove burrs when sharpened. If the burr is not completely removed, edge holding will be pretty bad. I've used AUS-6 to cut about 700 inches of carboard over the same 1 inch section of blade, and it would still shave. I used a small pocket microscope to make sure there was no burr left after sharpening. For EDC, I consider that adequate, though better is certainly available. They used to have some knives in the $80-$100 range with 154CM and other high end material, and the M16 and 21 have titanium handle versions. I dont know if the high end models are still around.
 
Finally, one of the finest knives CRKT ever produced is the now discontinued S-2. Often called the "poor man's Sebenza," the S-2 has a large titanium frame and a near 4-inch ATS-34 blade. The materials and assembly were superb and the knife can still be had occasionally at a good price.

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The CRKT S-2 was made back when CRKT cared about
its reputation.
The S-2 is one of my all time favorites. I've got one in my EDC rotation that finds its way into my pocket frequently. One other point that makes the knife nice is that the blade is coated.

Definitely one, if not the best knife CRKT has manufactured to date. :thumbup:
 
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