not impressed with vesuvius

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First, let me say tha it is not my intention to go "Spydie bashing".
On the contrary, I own three different Enduras and a Pro-Grip that I consider excellent EDC's for the money. However; I've been considering taking a step up to a custom collaboration with better steel. I recently came across the FRN Vesuvius. I was immediately won over by the tip-up carry, blade style and ATS-34 steel. When I got the knife home however; I noted a LOT of lateral movement in the blade. I also noticed that when pressure was applied to the blade, the liners actually seemed to spread apart. I've got a seven year old FRN endura that locks up tighter. Somebody please tell me that this is not indicative of what I can expect from a Starmate or Lum Tanto. :(
 
There were some bad ones that got out. If you are not satisfied send it back to Spyderco. They'll make it right.
 
As with any other "bad" Spydie that you may purchase, just call Mike at Spyderco Warranty and Repair(800-525-7770), and explain your dilemma. The Spydie crew will make sure that you are satisfied, whether it be to repair or replace your Vesuvius. ;)

Good Luck :D
 
Remember that the warranty deparment are run by *gasp* humans!
I too used to have a Vesuvius, and it exhibited lateral movement when closed. I send it back in, and they told me that it's bad, they couldn't replace it because they were reengineering it, and Mike told me to just pick a knife out of the line up so that I won't be without a knife! Talk about that.
But then again, they're human and by no means perfect.
You might want to check with Mike. Very likely that the Vesuvius would be a replacement. I really like how it felt and how it looked, and as soon as they got their re-engineered stuff out I'm going t grab it.
 
Originally posted by calyth,
Remember that the warranty deparment are run by *gasp* humans!
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LMAO!!! :D :eek:

....they couldn't replace it because they were reengineering it, and Mike told me to just pick a knife out of the line up so that I won't be without a knife! Talk about that.
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Thanks for clearing that up, calyth. That is what I meant by saying that Spyderco would replace the Vesuvius.
I guess that I better go get some rest now...:o
 
It is possible that the first models were not that good, as I heard many complains regarding the Vesuvius. I'd like to make a statement though. I own a Vesuvius (blue shell inlay) and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. The blade stays firmly in its place, with no wiggle at all and the compression lock never disengages accidentally.
It is true that it is not suitable for tip up carry, as it may easily open accidentally. But that's the problem with compression lock so far.
 
Originally posted by dialex
It is possible that the first models were not that good
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Damn right!
The one that I sent in was actually numbered!!! I so don't want them to replace it, but it was irrepairable :(
I think the newer Compression lock spydies could be carried tip up. The Salsa have a heck of a blade retention for a liner based lock.
Sour vesuviuses (vesuvii?) seems to be around for a bit. I like the blade shape, I like how sharp it is, I like how it looks, but too bad that mine was acting real funny. But then afterall, I think this is the first application of the compression lock.
 
The Vesuvius is the only Spyderco knife that I'm not that thrilled with. I'll keep it because it's the only (and probably last) compression-lock knife in my collection.
This knife could have been great if only it were a lock-back and the thumb-hole ramp just slightly rounded off.
But I LOVE the blade shape and the handle is extremely comfortable.

Allen.
 
The first Vesuvius I bought had alot of blade wobble which could not be adjusted by simply tightening the pivot screw. I ended up returning it to the dealer. I bought another one (with the Spyder bug on the handle) and so far so good. I carry it on and off and use it for casual tasks here and there, but it is by no means a hard use folder you can beat like a tank. For that I'd go with a Chinook instead.
 
Hello Persuader. Welcometo the Spyderco forum and thanx for visitin'.

We're sorry for your disappointment in the Veusuvius model that you received. There were a few that went out that were really not up to our standards. As a result of that, the Vesuvius is currently on production hold for re-engineering.

As mentioned, if you are not pleased, you could send it to Mike in Warrantee & repair. He can't replace it with anothe Vesuvius, but he could replace it with another model.

sal
 
Thanks for your reply Sal. Its not often that a big wheel will respond in person to a customer's complaint. I ended up taking the knife back to my dealer and swapping it for another one. let me state again that I loved the CONCEPT behind the Vesuvius. I really liked the blade shape and materials and found the handle to be pretty comfortable as well. When (if?) it's re-introduced, will
G-10 or carbon fiber scales be a possibility?
 
Sal,
Can you let us know when the reengineered Vesuvius hits the market?
I need one of those baby in my pocket.
I really love that "modified spearpoint" shape, and the blade as I remembered is a tad thinner than the Endura, so it's likely to cut better than the Endura.
 
Modified spearpoint and compression lock? Hmmm, sounds like my Gunting! :) All three of mine are well-made, BTW.
 
Thanx for the kind words Persuader, In reality, the End Line User (ELU) is the most important piece in the "business" equation....certainly worth myt time.

Thi is a relatively new lock and "bugs" are still being learned. The lock seems fine in concept and execution in the other models (Gunting, Lil' Temperance, Salsa & ATR). We didn't get it right on the Vesuvius, the thinner blade might be part of the culprit.

Current thoughts are to make it as a lockback to keep the thin cross section.

Hi Calyth, certainly you will be informed.

sal
 
It's interesting to me that some Vesuvius's give their owners problems, and other work fine. I just got mine, and it was backordered from the factory, so I think it might have been unproduced at the time I ordered.

I've had no problems with mine. No lateral wiggle, no faulty lock. One thing I did notice is that the compression lock doesn't "feel" as strong as a lockback, yet it performs just as well (it doesn't close under stress).

I'm very happy with the knife. Oh, and I carry it tip up IWB: no possibility of accidental opening.

Sal: while you're redesigning it, could you put a nice index finger choil on it to prevent my hand from sliding into the blade? I think that would make it as ergonomically sound as the native.
 
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