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:( guys this is not knife related, but please pray for me. my wife left me sunday night and is determined to leave me for good. I am absolutley surprised and heart broken, please pray for me I really need it. I cannot sleep at night, saddest of all today is my 35th birthday and it well you know....stin....without her :0(

Ive tried to talk to her, she says she never loved me. Im tired have not slept more than 6 hours since saturday, came to my parents house 90 miles from columbus where i live to get some sleep, not much better. my wife is slowly cleaning her stuff from our home, its pretty lonely there. I am absolutely heart broken, I still love her very much, hurts to know she does not. this is my 2nd marriage, 1st one left me for another man she was pregnant with his baby. even took my two kids have never seen them since (over 6 years ago). I thought this one was different. now she says our marriage was a lie. She was diagnosed with lupus last year, I wonder if this has something to do with it, or adds to it, also the medications, prednisone, other medications, etc. all I know is she will not consider coming home, she is through.
wow I feel like a real looser :(
 
Wow, that is rough. Did you see this coming? Obviously not, what I mean is have you two been getting along okay lately?

I will be thinking good thoughts for you as well.

Glenn
 
Oh man........I am sorry that you are going through all this.
My first wife had an affair with a friend of ours and left to live with him,,,,,,after that I was in a relationship much like yours......that is I thought she would be different......and she was for 14 years.......then she had an affair and told me the same thing.........she didn't love me anymore.
I have now been dealing with that fall out for over two years even though she woke up and we are still together.
It is the most devestating thing to deal with and can be a real ego destroyer to say the least.
I hate to say it but it sounds like your wife is having a affair.....did you or do you suspect something like that is up?
You have a long road ahead of you but you will SURVIVE.
It does get better believe it or not.........and you are not alone.
I can reccomend a great web site for you to tell your story and get great support form others dealing with this pain.
www.network54.com/forum/233195
Please go there and get it off your chest, you won't find a better group of people to deal with this situation.
Remember that you are not a loser and it was her choice to uproot the mariage and she has to own that.
I would really do some snooping around as from my experience I had to know the whole story. :eek:

I am so sorry you have to deal with all this esp on the day before your birthday.

Best Regards,
Kap
 
Thank you everyone for your prayers, concern and kind words, it really says allot to me about you guys. I appreciate it so much!! After I got off here yesterday, I got down prayed and finally accepted that I had no control I just had to leave it in God's hands and see what He would do. Well something happend allright. All the prayers of everyone were answered!!!

When I went home from my parents I got a message from my mother-in-aw who said, "John, we love you are still our son and we want to have a birthday dinner for you". At first I did not want to go, but then a friend said, "John, humble yourself what would Christ do?" So I went and when I got there my wife was there, even put her wedding ring back on! She was nice cordial, and seemd really nervous. At the end of the night she said, "would you help me with my stuff?" And she came home!!! It is wonderful news, but I know there is work to be done on it. God is good!! Thank you all for all the prayers, so much appreciated, cant express to you how much I appreciate all of you!! It is good to know that ther are many caring "knife-knuts" around here!!! Thanks again guys, please keep up the prayers!!!! There is still battle here to work everything out. It is on the right road though, very encouraging.

Thanks again for all your prayers!!!!

The Lord bless you guys for your concern :) !!!
:D




You see she has been very sick with lupus and she has been taking prednisone which can affect behavior also, create "agressivness".
This has added allot of stress to the marriage for the last year and a half.

I am happy she is back, I will take it one day at a time.

Thanks again to everyone for their prayers!!!

Sincerely
John
:)
 
John, I am happy for you that she came back!
One day at a time has been my motto for almost two years now and like I said it does get better.......man I hated hearing that at first....but it was true.
I am hoping you and your wife can work things out and get the help you need.

Kap
 
Good news, John. I'm sure your wife by now has talked with her doctor about the side effects of that drug. Very good of you to understand all that she is going thru.

Hang in there.

Put off your next knife purchase and buy her roses!

Phil
 
Guys this is going to sound strange, but this turned out to be a great blessing for me. God used this oppurtunity to heal me from past pain and hurt growing up. I did not realize I had been using her as a "safety blanket" and trying to get the love I never had groming up. You see I was abused as a child by my father in every sense of what would be considered "dispicable" today. I did not realize that even as an adult and minister of the Lord that it still affected me. you see my dad would abuse me while my mother would turn her back. Im not just talking about getting the whippings, beatings etc. I'll stop right there. Well even as an adult I have had problems with "self worth" thought I was worthless, unloveable. I did not accept Jesus Christ until I was in my early twenties, that was 15 years ago. Well even though I know about The Lord's love, and have experienced it, I did not feel "fully accepted". Now I did in terms of salvation, no problem there, although there was for the first years, accepting His grace that is, was hard for me, afterall I felt "unacceptable". well I had not realized that I had not dealt with the "abandonment" by my mother as she would turn her back while he did some pretty horrible things. Well when my wife and I had our fight she walked out, I panicked could not be alone and very clearly God showed me that I was still looking for a mother that I had never had, I now felt "abandonded" again. I ran to my parents house even though I had been hurt by them in my past. I had dealt with the anger towards my dad, but not towards My mom. You see for me to admit that she turned her back, meant I had no one to protect me, I always wanted to believe she had, but she had not, she could not have been able to. In the end though I see that God, even though most the time He does not take back "ones free will", He is still there in the backgorund watching. For me, He was there keeping my dad from destroying me completely. You see while I was at my parents during our seperation God dealt with my past pain, hurt.

Wed morning after a couple conversations with her, I had to "let my marriage go to the Lord". it was hard for me to do, i did not want to let go of my "saftey blanket", but guys that's where God needed me. So I got down on my knees and did so. I said, "Lord I want my marriage to work, but you know best, your will be done, its yours I give it to you". I gave it to Him and He allowed me to feel all the pain and hurt I had from all my life of growing up, intense, does not describe the pin of crying all this out. Its like when your young, you get hurt, its very painful to the point of physical pain while crying. This pain of crying was so very much worse. I was crying so hard I thought it could kill me. I had been carrying those tears for almost 35 years!!! I never knew it until now.
My past had been a living hell to me. You see I use to run away from home often, from the age of 7-15. I would run off to the woods live out there for days at a time, hoping I would die so I did not have to go back to there and get hit with all kinds of things, tools, etc, called names and even worse....

Ive carried the pain of my past for over 30 years. Im now 35 and who knows how young I was when it started? I grew up catholic (protestant now) with priests, nuns, etc in our family, alcoholism, etc. etc. etc. very sadly, dysfunctional. very hypocritical.

Well the moment I gave her to God, the tears came flowing and lasted for hours. After that I felt free!!! Also empty, the knot in my stomach did not feel the same, it was sore, but not hurting. There is hardly anyway I can explain this to you guys very well. Most would say, "its in your past get it over", but you know what? For someone who grew up being beat, being called names, like worthless, waste of oxygen, being stripped and ---- , virtually a living hell, who knew nothing else, but to do crazy things to escape reality, you will never understand. I had had a talk with my mom and confronted her, he did the abuse, God dealt with that a year ago for me, I forgave him, but the most painful part was knowing she did not protect me. Ive had a "nervous" sick knot in my stomach for years, had it all my life, now its almost gone!!

If my wife had not left me, I would not now be on the way to be free of this forever!!

See in my past (before I was married) I would sleep with woman to make me feel better about myself. God showed me how I was only looking for affection and affirmation. Now I can say I feel "completely" accepted by the Lord, I am valuable to Him and to me. If she had not left, I would not be healed now. I appologize as I know that many of you will not understand what I am saying, many will have an idea and they will find it troublesome to themselves. You see God has shown me Im not the only one.
Ive never been one to agree with or look to what many call "psychobabel", but I have to say there is something to say about being a "product of your enviroment". Theres some that will chime off with "when you are saved by Christ you are a new creation", this is true, but it does not mean your past experiences are wiped away. You may be on the road to heaven, but you are still dealing with life, and the consequences of the past.

All I can say is that I am thankful God gave me this gift. he healed me of this on my birthday, now that truly is a birthday present!!! :)

years ago a stranger came up to me in a church and said, "God wants to heal your heart", I looked at him like he was crazy, then he said, "He wants you to be
c-o-m-p-l-e-t-e-l-y whole!!!"

I understand this now. Now my wife is back, we are working on our marriage, dealing with her sickness and I do not look at her for what she cannot give me, only God can. I could have disobeyed the Lord gone outside out marriage in my anger, gone to other woman, but nothing would have changed the fact that God wanted to "get my attention" and now He has. We try to "drown" ourselves in our hobbies, sex, money, drugs, alcolohol, etc. But it will never satisfy us. You know most of my life, even into my adult years I was suicidal at times, but now I do not feel that way anymore. I knew it was wrong, I believed it was wrong (and it is), but for someone whose pain is beyond control I was lost, did not know what to do. It took God working through others and His "direct" intervention to save my life from being ruined because of my past. I needed a healing from all the pain of the past.

Heres a quick story I'll leave with you guys. When I was married to my first wife she was verbally and physically abusive to me. I would not hit a woman, she knew it, she took advantage of it. Well I was in the AF emabarrassed and fed up with life. I had accepted Jesus, was a fairly new believer, my first daughter was a year old (shes now 12). Well I got fed up one morning my wife had just drained what money was in the bank, tried to stab me the night before with a pair of scissors. I took my pistol went into the woods parked my car where no one would see it and would end my life.

Well as I sat on a log hundreds of yards away from the country road I loaded my gun and said, "sorry Lord Ive asked you to change eveything and you havent and I know this is wrong, but I cant do it anymore". Well before I could do anything a friend of mine, very compassionate believer in Christ, came running at me and said, "dont do it, God does not want you to do it". Well I knew at that moment God really loved me, He went through allot of trouble to stop me. You see my friend was driving the opposite direction and he got 24 miles away, almost to his girlfriends house when God told him to turn around and go the oppsite way. well he had to go much further the other way before he got to me. He told me that all God said was theres John's car its hidden in the woods, go back there and tell him to stop". My friend was horrified to see what would have happend. he even had said he almost ignored what the Lord was saying to him. This showed me God's love, this happend over 11 years ago, before I was a minister, or stronger in the Lord. Many will say, "well thats stupid you should have left her", but to me I was use to being mistreated, thought I deserved no better, knew only "that" my entire life.

I see now over time God had to "re-wire" me, heal me, change my way of thing so I would be whole. This has taken many years, but I am grateful for it. Only reinforces that God is God, He loves us. The world is th eway it is, because of us. He gave us free will, He gave us free reign, we are the ones who have messed it up.

I thank him for the healing I now can feel after 35 years of pain :)
 
You know God could of created us to be like robots worshipping him constantly and without thought. But God gave us all freedom of choice because when someone "chooses" to love you it makes for a whole better experience. I rejoice with you that your wife returned to you, by making her own decision. Embrace her and let her know that what God is doing in your life is going to make you that much better a husband to her and allow you to be free to express yourself without holding back for fear of rejection. I have a beautiful wiffe we have been married going on 6 years. She went through something similar but it was her oldest brother. Both her parents turned the other way. Unfortunately in more traditional hispanic families the man can never do wrong. I was my wife's friend first and helped her through the hurt and literal demonic oppression. Just remember that whatever we go through is the enemy trying to keep you from all that you are in Christ. How can the the scripture that you can all things thru him become real if the enemy can hold you back in just one thing? Dig in deeper than you already are and you and your wife will survive. One last thing, I do not know if your parents are still alive but one of the most liberating things my wife and I ever did was confront the issue, not them, the issue and explain in love and understanding what happened. They never apologized or even acknowledged what happened and the relationship was strained for a while, but my wife was healed just by letting them know it was ok she has forgiven and will move on. Now our relationship is great and her father has a new respect for her and even me. I guess cause i could of went after the brother or anything else "macho" like that. But instead I was there for support and helped the family mend itself back together. You may consider this, remember confronting the "issue" no t the person. I personally believe the love of Christ compells us to do so. You and your wife are in our prayers.
Jesse
 
Well Rev, it must seem like a weight has been lifted from your shoulders. I can't honestly relate to what you went through, but it sounds like alot. You are a stronger person than you realize, to have gone through all this and still have a solid outlook on things. Indeed the lord does work in mysterious ways. Good or bad, treasure every day you live.

I hope things continue to improve for you.

Glenn
 
Rev good to hear that things are better for you now.
That was a powerful post you typed out!
Thanks for the update.

Kap
 
Thank you guys for your prayers!!! It is so much appreciated!!! I think people do not realize that we are all broken in some way and in need of God's love and acceptance, and many times healing. Many times its our own past that stands in our way, me inlcluded!!! Either by things that were done to us, or we have done ourselves. As a minister I have to say that I am so much more in understanding of some of these issues now. Now that I know myself the extent of the damage that was done to me as a child, i will be better able to minister to others. I am an evangelist by trade, what the Lord has appointed me to, so this gives me much more compassion and understanding for others that have suffered in this also. I have always believed and now, even more, in being honest and open with people about my own past, past troubles, etc. I know many ministers (bless their hearts) who still believe you must walk around like everything was, has and is, a perfect world. it is not, only God is. Either by them not wanting to face it, or for whatever reason (only the Lord knows)?

Please continue to pray for my wife and I. I am taking her away for the weekend to get away from things.

The Lord bless you guys!! Your prayers and friendship have meant so much to me!!! :D

Sincerely in Christ's love,

John
 
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