Not trying to start a war but...

K

Knife11

Joined
Feb 13, 2001
Messages
750
Sal is in the spydie forum saying that spyderco came out with the Bi-directional texturing found on the BM 520 7 years ago I was hopping other non spydie fans might give an unbiased opinion on this.

Sal'sThread

Spydie fans can respond too, but you get my point ;)
 
I don't see anything to make a big deal about. I like benchmade and spyderco, and regardless of the knives its pretty obvious Sal has been very honest and forthcoming with the knife industry.
They may not have used the texturing on the same material Benchmade is going to, but they seem to have an honest claim on the idea. It doesn't sound like he's planning on raising hell with benchmade over it so it will probably be settled in private between them. I'd say the only reason it was mentioned at all is because credit should go where credit is due. Sal makes a living selling knives and he should be able to let customers know that his knives do have a feature which seems to be in demand.
 
I don't get the point in this thread either, but I have two of the models Sal specifically mentioned, that I bought several years ago, and they have bidirectional texturing, so what is the argument?
Kyle Fuglesten
 
There is no aurguement I just think it's funny to see Sal kind of whining about Benchmade. I mean he kind of trying to say that the 520 is no big deal cause they have had that type of thing for years...I guess if there were an argument it would be that rivited FRN spydercos from seven years ago don't compair with BM's new 520. Also I don't have an FRN spydie to compair the handle designs so I'm wondering just how similar they really are. Personally I can't imagine the frn having the same depth that the BM has.
 
Here's an unbiased opinion:

Mr. Glesser is correct, Mr. Glesser is NOT "whining," and it sure looks like you're just trying to start trouble with this thread. I don't think I've ever called anyone a troll before, but this thread is pushing it. If you have to start with "I'm not trying to start a war, BUT" then just don't post.
 
At no point does Sal even infer that the 520 is no big deal. All he is stating is that Benchmade didn't come up with the Bi-Directional texturing of the handle; nothing more. It is you that seems to have read more into his post than that. He also never made a comparison between the Benchmade knife and the Spydercos. It was you that did that as well.
 
He only wants to point out that, "The texturing is being hailed as something new." Which, it is not.
 
What the point?
BM start using bi-directional texturing to make 520 better. Bi-directional texturing was introduced by Spyderco 7 years ago. Probably some BM marketing person made a little mistake in , Sal corrected it and did it honestly:
"... on their new 520 Axis auto. A brilliant design by the way..."
I think you missed this part of his thread, so no reason to say:
"...he kind of trying to say that the 520 is no big deal..."
His point is:
"The texturing is being hailed as something new"

Thanks, Vassili.
 
Glock was using bi-directional texturing similar in concept to what is on the Calypso Jr. on their backstraps over twelve years ago.

Next...:rolleyes:
 
sal's point is that the texturing is being hailed as something new, although they already used it 7 years ago.
my question is, who hailed it as something new ? I dont see it on the BM website that the texturing is something new, or that they suggest it was their invention.
mistakaroo already mentioned it, although i think he meant something different -

>He only wants to point out that, "The texturing is being hailed as something new." Which, it is not.< It is not hailed as being something new. And it's not new.

regards, cheez
 
Hey, Sal's a great pal. Who's gossiping about him? He's one of those rare upfront guys whom this industry needs plenty of. :)
 
I was curious so here's what the BM site says

The aluminum scales are machined in a two directional grip so that the knife is easily put into the pocket and stays in position during activities due to the directional relief’s cut into the scales. This holds true while pulling or thrusting the blade as well.
Click to expand...
 
Who cares who came out with what first. Both are using it and I'm sure Spyderco will not loose any money or sleep over it.

It's a grip nothing overly thecnologicly secret about that you cut the Aluminium one way and an other and oh there you go the job is done. Any monkey can can dream that up.
 
Personally, I don't give a darn who came up with the idea first. I was just pointing out that Sal never inferred that the 520 was no big deal and that he never made any comparisons between the 520 and Spyderco models. He also never posted that it was BM that was hailing the Bi-Directional texturing as being something new. Maybe this was done by an over exuberant magazine reviewer. Who knows? Who cares? What I do know is that this is not something worth starting a pissing match over.
 
is twofold. One, Spyderco holds a patent on the texturing that BM may infringe. Two, along with the patent comes some ability to claim the "newness" of it.

What I think Mr. Glesser is doing is subtly asserting Spyderco's patent rights as well as the fact that they invented the bi-directional testing idea.

He is doing so in sort of an obtuse way so as to let people know that Spyderco is not sleeping on their rights nor are they about to sue BM into the ground. Legally unnecessary, but possibly a good PR move and PR is half the intellectual property game anyway.

Just my $0.02.
 
Knife11,

Just don't push it.
There's no way someone could question Sal's words about that.

Take care,

Andre Tiba
 
Ok ok sorry I posted this! :rolleyes: I guess Ihave a differnet perspective cause I've been reading sal's posts about BM for months... He never says anything bad about BM, but he often seems irritated that they beat him to the punch ( the new BM dive knife) or that he had that idea first (the 520) etc.

Just nevermind I should no better than to have an un-popular opinion, might get called a troll!!! :p
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top